RTW Shirts That Fit Like Tents - Who Are They Made For???

FidelCashflow · Aug 29, 2008

The majority of brands out there produce shirts that seem to fit like tents and seem to be cut for a man with massively broad shoulders, a huge chest and massive waist. Brands like Brioni, Canali, and pretty much all the non-slim-fit shirts seem to be guilty of this.

Who are these shirts made for? Is there anyone at there that these shirts actually fit? I love how stores show these shirts on torso-model with impossibly broad shoulders and a huge chest, but still clip the fabric at the waist from behind so they don't show you all the excess fabric.

P.S. I am aware of MTM shirts and I have basically sworn of RTW long ago, this is just my rant.

Mustapha · Aug 29, 2008

Originally Posted by FidelCashflow

The majority of brands out there produce shirts that seem to fit like tents and seem to be cut for a man with massively broad shoulders, a huge chest and massive waist. Brands like Brioni, Canali, and pretty much all the non-slim-fit shirts seem to be guilty of this.

Who are these shirts made for? Is there anyone at there that these shirts actually fit? I love how stores show these shirts on torso-model with impossibly broad shoulders and a huge chest, but still clip the fabric at the waist from behind so they don't show you all the excess fabric.

P.S. I am aware of MTM shirts and I have basically sworn of RTW long ago, this is just my rant.

I believe... that many brands probably assume that the buyer will get it altered if it's too baggy. After all, you can't sell a garment if it's too small. It will be immediately returned to the store. Women regularaly get garments fixed so they fit. We men seem to be busy surfing the internet or something to attend to this.

Obviously a altered shirt may have pockets or cuff plackets in the wrong place but the shirts will FIT and who will notice the details?

Before I discovered tailored shirts I always had a seamstress do this - she would take in the shirt sides and keep going all the way down the sleeves; effectively giving me a slimmer shirt AND higher armhole.

lee_44106 · Aug 29, 2008

-unlike all the geeks on this forum, Average Joe does not care for the slim silohoutte.
-RTW by design is to fit as many body/people as possible.

vitaminc · Aug 29, 2008

Imagine the average figures that could afford Brioni shirts or Kiton jackets...

Besides, no one really cares outside of a selected few.

Golf_Nerd · Aug 29, 2008

Originally Posted by vitaminc

Besides, no one really cares outside of a selected few.

+1

Tarmac · Aug 29, 2008

The tent-cut is pretty small or just right for many overweight people. Remember, a huge market segment cannot even fit into them, they have to shop at Big N Tall

texas_jack · Aug 29, 2008

In a word, everyone.

NiFTY · Aug 29, 2008

i just find it strange that you are obviously concerned enough about image to buy these high end shirts and spend all the money on them but you cannot be bothered excersizing and eating right, a slim guy in a cheap polyester shirt with plastic buttons looks better than any portly guy in a borrelli

acidboy · Aug 29, 2008

Originally Posted by lee_44106

-unlike all the geeks on this forum, Average Joe does not care for the slim silohoutte.
-RTW by design is to fit as many body/people as possible.

Business-wise, an average Joe like this gives more business to a OTR shirt brand than any one of us picky buyers.

mack11211 · Aug 29, 2008

A lot of the Italian makers like Brioni and Lorenzini make fuller cuts for the American market.

American shirts are full cut for a few reasons.

One is that dress shirts were worn under coats and suits; you saw the collar, cuffs, and a bit of shirtfront but not much else.

Of course Europeans wore coats and suits too.

But Americans are not only fatter but also have a different fashion ideal: comfort, which they associate with oversized clothing.

So there we are.

FidelCashflow · Aug 30, 2008

Originally Posted by NiFTY

i just find it strange that you are obviously concerned enough about image to buy these high end shirts and spend all the money on them but you cannot be bothered excersizing and eating right, a slim guy in a cheap polyester shirt with plastic buttons looks better than any portly guy in a borrelli

I'm not sure who you're talking to.

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I totally get there are fat guys out there who need shirts too, which would make sense to produce very generously proportioned shirts... but these massive shirts still come in small neck sizes. Is it really possible to have a 15" neck and a 44" waist???

SoCal2NYC · Aug 30, 2008

Are you still having trouble with the latte bowls at Holt Renfrew?

FidelCashflow · Aug 30, 2008

Originally Posted by SoCal2NYC

Are you still having trouble with the latte bowls at Holt Renfrew?
You're thinking of LVoer. But its nice to know your thoughts are with me.

Grayland · Aug 30, 2008

I have the same issue with many RTW pants. I see a lot of the Italian trousers sold here that seem to be designed for guys with skinny legs and no ass. I'm of average build and I find that even if I size up, many of these pants are way too slim. Too bad as many of them are beautiful and I would love to purchase them.

CHITON · Aug 30, 2008

Originally Posted by mack11211

But Americans are not only fatter but also have a different fashion ideal: comfort, which they associate with oversized clothing.

+1

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