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Originally Posted by OmniscientCause View Post

What are people's opinions of kogod? I know it really isn't a target MBA program but I think it has it's own niche. Am I totally off here ? I'm looking to submit my application in 2 weeks.

Really don't have the credentials for a school any more competitive.


Honestly I had to look it up. But I do know American.

 

Nothing wrong with the school and you'll likely leave with new connections.

 

As long as you don't delude yourself that you're competing with H/S/W it's certainly fine for an MBA. Class rank is also very important.

post #962 of 1044
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Originally Posted by OmniscientCause View Post

What are people's opinions of kogod? I know it really isn't a target MBA program but I think it has it's own niche. Am I totally off here ? I'm looking to submit my application in 2 weeks.

Really don't have the credentials for a school any more competitive.

My understanding is that MBA's are for two things:

1) Career switching
2) Advancement in current company

Career switching usually requires a strong brand, or on campus recruitment which Kogod definitely lacks. If, however, you are doing an MBA for advancement in your own career, it might be worthwhile as long as your employer is financing.

If none of them above apply, I would syat away.
post #963 of 1044
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Originally Posted by Lord-Barrington View Post


My understanding is that MBA's are for two things:

1) Career switching
2) Advancement in current company

Career switching usually requires a strong brand, or on campus recruitment which Kogod definitely lacks. If, however, you are doing an MBA for advancement in your own career, it might be worthwhile as long as your employer is financing.

If none of them above apply, I would syat away.


Summed up perfectly.

 

Although there is recruiting everywhere, the caliber of companies just really changes.

post #964 of 1044
Thanks guys...just as background. I am doing middle/back office work and im watching it take me no where. I tried CFA but dont have the patience required to study that much when Im putting in 55-60 hours a week. Made 45 last year and things are not going to improve this year.

I would like to transition into consulting and am kind of positioning my personal statement around my ability to take processes down and improve them. (Basically all i do right now)

Kogod looks to attract several consulting companies but I don't know to what percent of students. I am looking at other MBAs in DC but GW and Gtown both probably will be a stretch.


If I stay in Boston id be looking at schools like Bently/NEU. BU and BC would probably be stretches also.


Either way its safe to say I wouldnt be wasting my time if I went to any of them right?


I want full time, even more so if I am relocating to DC.
post #965 of 1044

You wouldn't be wasting your time, but your consulting chances are very very very low for a top firm.

 

Even at BU we had no top tier consulting firms. There was the occasion McKinsey or Bain, but never for consulting.

post #966 of 1044
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Originally Posted by MSchapiro View Post

You wouldn't be wasting your time, but your consulting chances are very very very low for a top firm.

Even at BU we had no top tier consulting firms. There was the occasion McKinsey or Bain, but never for consulting.

Excuse my ignorance but how much difference is there from a top firm and an average one? I'm not really that focused on getting into a top teir firm but just for curiosity sake.

I was focused on staying in investments until I decided not to stick around and play the waiting game to even get to middle office for an IM.
post #967 of 1044

No worries, it's a good question.

 

In terms of reputation and salary it's really big (similar to ibanking vs middle or back office to give you an idea). If you're just looking for a long term career there are plenty of firms providing things like health care or legal consulting services. The life style in those firms tends to be nice and more relaxed with decent pay.

post #968 of 1044
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Originally Posted by OmniscientCause View Post

Thanks guys...just as background. I am doing middle/back office work and im watching it take me no where. I tried CFA but dont have the patience required to study that much when Im putting in 55-60 hours a week. Made 45 last year and things are not going to improve this year.

I would like to transition into consulting and am kind of positioning my personal statement around my ability to take processes down and improve them. (Basically all i do right now)

Kogod looks to attract several consulting companies but I don't know to what percent of students. I am looking at other MBAs in DC but GW and Gtown both probably will be a stretch.


If I stay in Boston id be looking at schools like Bently/NEU. BU and BC would probably be stretches also.


Either way its safe to say I wouldnt be wasting my time if I went to any of them right?


I want full time, even more so if I am relocating to DC.

GW/GTown and BC/BU aren't going to be stretches as long as you don't have a terrible GPA (think low 2.0s) or bomb the GMAT. Usually the typical work experience for applicants tails off pretty significantly once you are out of the top 15-20 programs. GW, GTown, BC and BU are good schools but their MBA programs won't be bursting at the seems with students coming in from investment banking and MBB consulting...

Look at getting a very good GMAT score and then go from there.
post #969 of 1044
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Originally Posted by Lord-Barrington View Post

GW/GTown and BC/BU aren't going to be stretches as long as you don't have a terrible GPA (think low 2.0s) or bomb the GMAT. Usually the typical work experience for applicants tails off pretty significantly once you are out of the top 15-20 programs. GW, GTown, BC and BU are good schools but their MBA programs won't be bursting at the seems with students coming in from investment banking and MBB consulting...

Look at getting a very good GMAT score and then go from there.


Unfortunatly GMAT is low. Like middle 500s low. I took the knewton program the second time around and crammed the material in 6 weeks, felt great taking the exam and I didn't improve at all.


I don't have time to take it again. I take it not worth applying to those schools with such a low score.

GPA is 3.3 but take my first semester out of the picture and it's over 3.5.


Went to a small liberal arts college in providence but not brown if that helps narrow things down.
post #970 of 1044
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Originally Posted by OmniscientCause View Post

Unfortunatly GMAT is low. Like middle 500s low. I took the knewton program the second time around and crammed the material in 6 weeks, felt great taking the exam and I didn't improve at all.


I don't have time to take it again. I take it not worth applying to those schools with such a low score.

GPA is 3.3 but take my first semester out of the picture and it's over 3.5.


Went to a small liberal arts college in providence but not brown if that helps narrow things down.

The return on going from mid 500s to mid 600s has to be astronomical. I'd find some way to figure out how many more questions you'd need to get right/what incremental concepts you need to master and then decide if retaking is worth it. Also try Manhattan GMAT - really solid self study books.

Finally, I don't know your whole situation, but 60 hrs a week leaves you with plenty of time to study. Unless you're caring for a sick relative or something, i wouldn't let this get in your way.
post #971 of 1044
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Originally Posted by CunningSmeagol View Post

The return on going from mid 500s to mid 600s has to be astronomical. I'd find some way to figure out how many more questions you'd need to get right/what incremental concepts you need to master and then decide if retaking is worth it. Also try Manhattan GMAT - really solid self study books.

Finally, I don't know your whole situation, but 60 hrs a week leaves you with plenty of time to study. Unless you're caring for a sick relative or something, i wouldn't let this get in your way.

I'm applying as is. I realize it's only one aspect. As for plenty of time I don't see it. I studied from 7-830 every morning worked 930-830-930. By the time I got home really didn't have the energy or focus.

So there were the weekends which I did 10-5 Saturdays and 4-6 hours Sundays.

Where do you see a lot of time?
Edited by OmniscientCause - 1/23/14 at 5:07pm
post #972 of 1044
a lot of time learning number properties is not the same as a lot of time understanding the tips and tricks of the GMAT.
post #973 of 1044
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a lot of time learning number properties is not the same as a lot of time understanding the tips and tricks of the GMAT.

i thought knewton would work because it was someone talking to me and walking me through the problems, kind of not really...because I learn better this way. Sitting down at a table with a book and teaching myself math or grammar has never been a strength of mine. And I dont like making excuses for myself, but im obviously not happy with middle 500s, but i have a job that does not require me to use my brain (you would be surprised how exhausted one can be if this is the case) and hasnt in the 3 years ive worked. It makes me completely numb and it will take awhile before I'll be able to engage in active thought again. Doing better on the gmat would be a long term goal for me, only problem is i dont have the time or patience to wait another year.
post #974 of 1044
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

a lot of time learning number properties is not the same as a lot of time understanding the tips and tricks of the GMAT.

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post #975 of 1044
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Originally Posted by OmniscientCause View Post

i thought knewton would work because it was someone talking to me and walking me through the problems, kind of not really...because I learn better this way. Sitting down at a table with a book and teaching myself math or grammar has never been a strength of mine. And I dont like making excuses for myself, but im obviously not happy with middle 500s, but i have a job that does not require me to use my brain (you would be surprised how exhausted one can be if this is the case) and hasnt in the 3 years ive worked. It makes me completely numb and it will take awhile before I'll be able to engage in active thought again. Doing better on the gmat would be a long term goal for me, only problem is i dont have the time or patience to wait another year.

Business school is an investment. If waiting another year means getting a 650+ GMAT and a much better brand name school, it's pretty obvious that it would be worth it. Alternatively, some schools allow you to send your GMAT score in later than the application, so you could still have time to study. I'm guessing you're probably studying pretty inefficiently, too, given your score and the amount you said you've been studying.
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