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Interesting, we've got one thread where people find it funny to use the trendy word "chav" (ie--low-class whitefolk or in American the ever present term "hick" or "redneck") slur, even adding it to their vocabulary. But PHV brings up "gino" and he catches hell for it. double standard? I think so. Be careful PHV the PC police might come knocking.
Doesn't make much sense to me either. Best you can do is ignore the hypocrites. They'll realize themselves that at some point they make no sense. If I wanted to defame Italians, I would probably use the far more common words to do so. And I probably wouldn't be spending so much time in Italy, or own so much of their clothing, or spend 8 hours a day playing an Italian violin. But alas, I guess I just am an uneducated racist idiot. Luckily I have my mountains of Godiva chocolate to comfort me.
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This thread made me go look up "Chav" online and found chavworld.co.uk (apparently where Drizzt got his definition from). Quite humorous. They listen to the Streets though...
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This thread made me go look up "Chav" online and found chavworld.co.uk (apparently where Drizzt got his definition from). Quite humorous. They listen to the Streets though...
I love the Streets. Some of the people they list I don't fully understand why. Then again, though as much as I think I know about Brit culture, I really don't know much besides the music. But anways, I just hope that everyone kind of gets it that I had no intent on being racist. I'll have to plead ignorance in this case, because when I was in prep school "dressing gino" meant litterally what I have stated many times above, and here in Montreal it certainly isn't used for Italians exclusively, at least amoung clubbers.
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Look, I shouldn't. I really shouldn't. Listen, there's a lot of mudslinging going on here, and it's dumb. But...
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Look, I shouldn't. I really shouldn't. Listen, there's a lot of mudslinging going on here, and it's dumb. But...
I'm very offended by that. O my goodness "retarded"? Does someone see a tree? Go get a boyscout to tie us a sturdy knot, this guy has to be linched.
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(Brian SD @ 07 Jan. 2005, 1:55) This thread made me go look up "Chav" online and found chavworld.co.uk (apparently where Drizzt got his definition from). Quite humorous. They listen to the Streets though...
I love the Streets. Some of the people they list I don't fully understand why. Then again, though as much as I think I know about Brit culture, I really don't know much besides the music. But anways, I just hope that everyone kind of gets it that I had no intent on being racist. I'll have to plead ignorance in this case, because when I was in prep school "dressing gino" meant litterally what I have stated many times above, and here in Montreal it certainly isn't used for Italians exclusively, at least amoung clubbers.
2. chav Chav :- Cheltenham Average More common than flys around shit, often wear burberry and are mistaken for intelligent life. Many of these sub-speiced humaniods gather around sertain locations about the towns and cities of Gloustershire, the most common of all locations is McDonalds. Easily spotted, look for fake gold, the ord Nike on clothing. Listen for the mispronouciation of childs words. e.g isn't it, this is spoken as innit, and Friend becomes mush, or bruv, though many of them say they could "fukin batter ya" most of them couldn't even batter a fish. To spot a chav, be it male or female, (there is very little difference between the two) look for hair that is shorter than freshly cut grass, the inability to grow over 5 ft and the lack of education. If approuched by one of these humaniod Twats, simply reply with a smart comment or use a big word, such as car, or bus, or floor, mostly they will become confused and walk off, in rare occasions the have been known to attempt to harm people to little effect. It is well known that chavs have little or no friends, just a "crew" of mockly idiotic fools with brand name clothes and there trousers tucked into there socks, also see pikey or townie Do not be fooled by there Humanoid looks, they are of another race, mainly scum For the greater good of the World, Legalise Chav hunting. Grab a gun, first one to 50 burberry hats gets a Metallica CD.. Source: Adman, Mar 30, 2004 from Urban Dictionary). There was also a post on Chavworld... too good, read this: "yeah just a basic question are chavs pro american? most of the people i know are very anti-american, however the chavs at my college seem to be pro, and even *shudder* think an american accent would make them sound cooler? also do they think the sea cucumber (george bush) is a good president, and do they agree with the institution(ie the religious right) he stands for, and finally what are their own political views? all comments welcome, whether from a chav or not, especially if you are anti-bush/american also"
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(whnay. @ 07 Jan. 2005, 1:47) Interesting, we've got one thread where people find it funny to use the trendy word "chav" (ie--low-class whitefolk or in American the ever present term "hick" or "redneck") slur, even adding it to their vocabulary. But PHV brings up "gino" and he catches hell for it. double standard? I think so. Be careful PHV the PC police might come knocking.
Doesn't make much sense to me either. Best you can do is ignore the hypocrites. They'll realize themselves that at some point they make no sense. If I wanted to defame Italians, I would probably use the far more common words to do so. And I probably wouldn't be spending so much time in Italy, or own so much of their clothing, or spend 8 hours a day playing an Italian violin. But alas, I guess I just am an uneducated racist idiot. Luckily I have my mountains of Godiva chocolate to comfort me.
The reason I mentioned the chocolates was because that is what is was eating at that particular time when I typed my response as to what I should shove down my throat, plus they are delicious. It was a direct response to your vulgar tone. Jon.
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(shoreman1782 @ 07 Jan. 2005, 2:00) Look, I shouldn't. I really shouldn't. Listen, there's a lot of mudslinging going on here, and it's dumb. But...
I'm very offended by that. O my goodness "retarded"? Does someone see a tree? Go get a boyscout to tie us a sturdy knot, this guy has to be linched.
Well, I would have called you a retard, but that would have been an insult to people who suffer from mental retardation. Jon.
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(PHV @ 07 Jan. 2005, 5:02)
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Originally Posted by shoreman1782,07 Jan. 2005, 2:00
Look, I shouldn't. I really shouldn't. Listen, there's a lot of mudslinging going on here, and it's dumb. But...
I'm very offended by that. O my goodness "retarded"? Does someone see a tree? Go get a boyscout to tie us a sturdy knot, this guy has to be linched.
Well, I would have called you a retard, but that would have been an insult to people who suffer from mental retardation. Jon.
You're becoming evermore insulting. You can't call someone "stupid" just because you don't agree with them. Ultimately it doesn't matter to me, because comming from you, insults involving intelligence are utterly meaningless. So again, either refer to my arguments in a respectful manner, or just eat more chocolate.
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Originally Posted by Brian SD,07 Jan. 2005, 1:55
This thread made me go look up "Chav" online and found chavworld.co.uk (apparently where Drizzt got his definition from). Quite humorous. They listen to the Streets though...
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I love the Streets. Some of the people they list I don't fully understand why. Then again, though as much as I think I know about Brit culture, I really don't know much besides the music. But anways, I just hope that everyone kind of gets it that I had no intent on being racist. I'll have to plead ignorance in this case, because when I was in prep school "dressing gino" meant litterally what I have stated many times above, and here in Montreal it certainly isn't used for Italians exclusively, at least amoung clubbers.
How about "greaseball"? greaseball n : offensive terms for a person of Italian descent [syn: wop, dago, Guinea] Seems a bit coincidental that two such terms should be used without there being some sort of ethnic intent. Perhaps it is your age and/or a certain naivete regarding the origins or intent of such expressions, but I assure you if you go down to Boston's North End, point to someone your age and say "yo, greaseball" you will most certainly get your ass kicked. As regards "chav", it seems a bit more generic in that it doesn't really point to a particular ethnic group, more of a class thing I guess. I suppose then you could say it's classist as opposed to racist, which is not terrific in itself. At least it has the potential for humor, if used in a non-specific, non-partisan way. "Greaseball" is just mean spirited, and invokes a history of negative connotations. "Gino" is an example of ethnic name typecasting, like "Paddy" the Irishman, "Juan" the Mexican, "Sven" the Swede, "Hymie" the Jew, etc. Mildly offensive, but also kinda...dumb. my .02
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(PHV @ 07 Jan. 2005, 5:00)
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Originally Posted by Brian SD,07 Jan. 2005, 1:55
This thread made me go look up "Chav" online and found chavworld.co.uk (apparently where Drizzt got his definition from). Quite humorous. They listen to the Streets though...
I love the Streets. Some of the people they list I don't fully understand why. Then again, though as much as I think I know about Brit culture, I really don't know much besides the music. But anways, I just hope that everyone kind of gets it that I had no intent on being racist. I'll have to plead ignorance in this case, because when I was in prep school "dressing gino" meant litterally what I have stated many times above, and here in Montreal it certainly isn't used for Italians exclusively, at least amoung clubbers.
How about "greaseball"? greaseball n : offensive terms for a person of Italian descent [syn: wop, dago, Guinea] Seems a bit coincidental that two such terms should be used without there being some sort of ethnic intent. Perhaps it is your age and/or a certain naivete regarding the origins or intent of such expressions, but I assure you if you go down to Boston's North End, point to someone your age and say "yo, greaseball" you will most certainly get your ass kicked. As regards "chav", it seems a bit more generic in that it doesn't really point to a particular ethnic group, more of a class thing I guess. I suppose then you could say it's classist as opposed to racist, which is not terrific in itself. At least it has the potential for humor, if used in a non-specific, non-partisan way. "Greaseball" is just mean spirited, and invokes a history of negative connotations. "Gino" is an example of ethnic name typecasting, like "Paddy" the Irishman, "Juan" the Mexican, "Sven" the Swede, "Hymie" the Jew, etc. Mildly offensive, but also kinda...dumb. my .02
Fair enough, I realize that people have a point in claiming that it is racist. I am just trying to justify myself as not having any racial prejudices. I always thought a "greaseball" is someone who gels their hair till the point that their head is bullet proof. Also derivitive of the 50s "greaser", which like Chav, refers to any person fitting a stylistic profile. Therefore once more, I am clueless of racial connotations. Gino and greaseball to me seem to go hand in hand, but knowing that they are defamations I will likely choose my words differently.
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My appologies for the off-topic post, but there is just something I'd like to clear up for myself. Are the terms 'chav' and 'gino' used synonomously? It seems that PHV used the term 'chav' to describe someone that we talk about here as the 'american jackass'. Blue and white striped shirt, baggier boot-cut jeans, chunky shoes in a black shiny leather, and short spiky hair with a lot of gel in it. However, from that website, it seems that a 'chav' is a white guy who tries to act black, or hip-hop/urban. Someone who we call white-trash, or a 'wigger' around where I live.
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Originally Posted by PHV,07 Jan. 2005, 5:02
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Originally Posted by shoreman1782,07 Jan. 2005, 2:00
Look, I shouldn't. I really shouldn't. Listen, there's a lot of mudslinging going on here, and it's dumb. But...
I'm very offended by that. O my goodness "retarded"? Does someone see a tree? Go get a boyscout to tie us a sturdy knot, this guy has to be linched.
Well, I would have called you a retard, but that would have been an insult to people who suffer from mental retardation. Jon.
sorry, just need to get that picture out of my system.
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My appologies for the off-topic post, but there is just something I'd like to clear up for myself. Are the terms 'chav' and 'gino' used synonomously? It seems that PHV used the term 'chav' to describe someone that we talk about here as the 'american jackass'.  Blue and white striped shirt, baggier boot-cut jeans, chunky shoes in a black shiny leather, and short spiky hair with a lot of gel in it. However, from that website, it seems that a 'chav' is a white guy who tries to act black, or hip-hop/urban.  Someone who we call white-trash, or a 'wigger' around where I live.
Yes, sleeves turned in, square toed shoes (9 times out of 10 from Aldo or some similar store)... I forgot those too. Wiggers are different than chavs, in that wiggers dress differently... more urban style in the American sense. Brands like Phat Farm, FUBU (not so much anymore), Ecko, Sean John, Karl Kani etc... a lot of valour track suits... the average wigger usually has a fairly expensive wardrobe. Walk into an urban store some time and you'll see that a sweat shirt costs upwards of $200, and many of their dress shirts are in Lacoste/Fred Perry/Emporio Armani ranges. O, and don't forget the newest Jordans.
post #75 of 77
Jon, PHV Drop the mud, back away from the puddle, or the thread gets locked. Before we know who made/designed the damn coat...
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