Drizzt, I think he took offense to the Von Dutch comment, breaking up is tough to do, huh LA Guy? Haha.
Ouch. I still stand by their standard, "Engineer" jeans, which are a good, solid dark jean with an interesting green tint and minimal, albeit a little wierd (faint striations all down the leg?) distressing. They fit great - trust me, I've tried on pretty much every pair of jeans our there - and for a medium-low rise (about 11"), slight boot cut jean, these are superlative. And details are interesting, with understated back pocket stitching, interesting stitching overall, and cool slanted belt loops. Its too bad that they overextended their brand coverage and at the same time came out with such crappy distressed and logoed model. And for the record, I've always hated the hats and tees (check my old posts... I speak true.)