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post #1 of 14
8/22/08 at 3:10pm
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its not an invitation to pour yourself another glass. Just an FYI.
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post #2 of 14
8/22/08 at 3:14pm
Story?
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post #3 of 14
8/22/08 at 5:03pm
I read somewhere that Japanese table etiquette dictates that one should fill your companion's empty sake cup and have him or her fill yours. Not sure how that would apply to a bartender, but I wouldn't think it's a problem, unless the bartenders does not know how many cups to charge you for.
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post #4 of 14
8/23/08 at 3:54am
I sense that there is a funny story to be told
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post #5 of 14
8/24/08 at 8:36am
That's why you never leave bottles on the bartop. Have you never had the manager "steal" your liquor just to show you you're slacking?
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post #6 of 14
8/24/08 at 10:09am
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I went to Sakagura in NYC. Had some food and sake...there were four sizes to pick from, glass, carafe, bottle and another size in between carafe and bottle, which is what I ordered @ $26 per. The bartender proceeds to bring out a decent size bottle and pour me and my buddy a decent size glass sitting in a bowl to the point that it overflows...very interesting, and the sake itself was quite good...so good that, being that the bottle had been left right at our seats, I poured myself another glass and topped my buddy off...the bartender rushed over and said that the $26 was only for one glass and that he does al the pouring...so i am thinking that the first round was $50+ and that the second round was as well...luckily it was $26 for the two glasses...so $52 in total...it wasn't so much the $ as it was the embarrassment of sitting in a classy place, deciding to randomly pour for myself and having the bartender rushing over!
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post #7 of 14
8/24/08 at 10:51am
Thats surprising...I know when I order espresso w/ Sambuka they bring the bottle and let you pour what you like...you get charged once. To me thats unusual.
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post #8 of 14
8/24/08 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by NewYorkRanger View Post
Thats surprising...I know when I order espresso w/ Sambuka they bring the bottle and let you pour what you like...you get charged once. To me thats unusual.
Really depends on where you go. It's not uncommon for owners to be very stringent on how much their bartenders pour per glass/shot.
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post #9 of 14
8/24/08 at 11:02am
Definitely sounds like a NYC/American thing. In Japan (at least in "traditional" areas... Tokyo might be different), you get your ceramic jug of sake and you and your companions drink it. Then, he brings you another. And another. And another. Soon enough, you don't know where you are and one of your Japanese friends/colleagues starts to disrobe or at least tie his necktie around his head while telling you intimate details about his wife. The best thing about traditional areas of Japan is that you often don't even pay that night. You pay "with your face" and at the end of the month the bartender/restaurant owner sends you a bill. Generally, before opening it, there are thunderclaps, drumrolls, and lots of profuse bowing as you wonder how on earth you drank THAT much. Nevertheless, good sake in the US tends to be chargable at a major premium, so I suppose it is a business/profit move to monitor the amounts per glass. Where I live every year is where they make the best damn sake in Japan, so we drink Kubota like it's going out of style...
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post #10 of 14
8/26/08 at 2:57am
Hmm, I've never heard of the bartender leaving the actual bottle of sake. Either you order a single glass, or you can get one of those little Japanese-style carafes as mentioned above. Also, rach2jlc, where do you stay when you're in Japan?
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post #11 of 14
8/26/08 at 9:21am
I'm with you... I've never had the whole bottle placed in front of me... glass or carafe (usually carafe!) I stay in Niigata, btw.
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post #12 of 14
8/31/08 at 5:10pm
I wen tto a nice resturant in the Wynn a few days ago and the sake was only $125.00 a bottle.
The most expensive was 500.00 + but I dont know enough about sake to pay that.
However the discription on the menu was dead on to the taste. I was impressed.
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post #13 of 14
9/1/08 at 6:49am
Frequently after a meal in Italy one asks for a limoncello and the waiter leaves the bottle on your table.
It's always tempting to finish it off but I restrain because I know the consequences the following morning.
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post #14 of 14
9/8/08 at 2:07am
If they leave you this, then you are charged by the bottle. This is sold per cup. But I have never heard of restaurants leaving this by the table. Perhaps the restaurant you went to wanted to mimic the french leaving their wine bottle by the table.
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