Minor detailing? I don't consider fairly extensive handwork minor detailing. From what I can tell, Pal Zileri white label (Gruppo Forall) is almost totally machine made. It's fully canvassed, but the stitches are clearly not done by hand. I've only seen one Sartorial piece, to be honest, but it clearly appeared to have handwork at the lapels, collar, and sleevehead. IMO, the GF line is a good notch below Canali, Cantarelli, and Corneliani at a similar price point. The Pull line is not good -- bad fabrics, and totally fused. The person who said that the only difference was that it was more "simple," is either lying, misinformed, or he doesn't know the difference between a fused and a canvassed suit.