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post #46 of 55
please fuck off. pretty please?
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i'd prefer to ask here as replies are more simplified and easier to understand

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please fuck off. pretty please?

Wait for it.....
post #48 of 55
just put him on ignore. i already have
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just put him on ignore. i already have

If I put the entire forum on ignore, will it be like my personal fiefdom?

lefty
post #50 of 55
Funny discussion going on here. Lefty and why, what you are saying makes sense. A calorie deficit is the trick (sounds easy) to lose weight. Now it doesn't matter how you achieve that, eat less, or exercise more. However, couldn't it be, that some diets just make it easier on you? For example, eating food that give you more energy in stead of storing it immediately and make you lame and actually wanna hang out on the couch the rest of the day. It doesn't change your point of the need for a calorie deficit, but it just shows that there are easier ways to lose weight than by stuffing yourself with junk food..
post #51 of 55
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Funny discussion going on here.

Lefty and why, what you are saying makes sense. A calorie deficit is the trick (sounds easy) to lose weight. Now it doesn't matter how you achieve that, eat less, or exercise more.

However, couldn't it be, that some diets just make it easier on you? For example, eating food that give you more energy in stead of storing it immediately and make you lame and actually wanna hang out on the couch the rest of the day.

It doesn't change your point of the need for a calorie deficit, but it just shows that there are easier ways to lose weight than by stuffing yourself with junk food..

The key to any diet is sticking to it. If eating "clean" allows to stay on your diet longer, than that's the one for you. If, as in my case, you like "junk food" a lot and can work it into your calorie deficit successfully, then that's the best way. And for what's it's worth i get a lot more energy from a box of Capt'n Crunch than a box of oatmeal.

Strip down popular diet books to their basics and you'll see two fundamental things:
1) the psychology of sticking
2) massive calorie deficits

Everything else is just filler.

lefty
post #52 of 55
A strict low carb, high-fat high-protein diet is the fastest and most effective way to lose fat without losing muscle. Weight training and HIIT is the best workout regimen. I know from experience that low-carb works. I have a really stubborn last layer of fat, and I tried all sorts of diets, low-calorie, eating really clean, etc etc. The lowest bodyfat I've ever had was when I cut out the carbs and ate nothing but meat, eggs, veggies, some fruits, nuts etc, no bread, and had one cheat day a week. It's just too difficult to maintain.
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Originally Posted by Fat-Elvis View Post
A strict low carb, high-fat high-protein diet is the fastest and most effective way to lose fat without losing muscle. Weight training and HIIT is the best workout regimen. I know from experience that low-carb works. I have a really stubborn last layer of fat, and I tried all sorts of diets, low-calorie, eating really clean, etc etc. The lowest bodyfat I've ever had was when I cut out the carbs and ate nothing but meat, veggies, some fruits, nuts etc, no bread, and had one cheat day a week. It's just too difficult to maintain.

Have you tried them all?
post #54 of 55
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Have you tried them all?

If my "all" you mean every fad diet with its own name, then no. But when it comes to the basic fat loss diets, I've tried everything, and low-carb got me at a lower bodyfat% than I've ever had, and in not that long either. It also preserved muscle better than mere low-calorie diets. Simple jogging and eating a healthy low-calorie diet was enough to go from chubby to moderately fit, though.
post #55 of 55
Better submit it to the AJCN.
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