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post #31 of 109
8/14/08 at 9:20pm
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Originally Posted by maxlin View Post
There's no way he's 190 in that first picture. He looks like he's pushing 215..

At least. He's quoted at 190 by his coach to mask the fact that instead of putting on ten pounds of muscle in a year, he actually put on ~35. Which, in accordance with his times, would indicate some kind of extra-legal supplement.
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post #32 of 109
8/14/08 at 9:23pm
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Originally Posted by doug funnie View Post
A quick google search uncovered this quote:
"Swimmers have higher energy intakes than other athletes and eat more energy than they expend. It has been suggested that swimming doesn't cause the appetite drop that accompanies heavy running and cycling training. Many people observe that they feel like "eating a horse" after they have finished a swim training session, and may overcompensate for the energy they have just burned. Some research suggests that this is due to the cool temperatures in which swimmers train. By contrast, runners and cyclists usually experience an increase in body temperature during training, which may serve to suppress appetite - at least in the short term."

but it sounds pretty bogus to me.

This seems absolutely true in my experience.
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post #33 of 109
8/14/08 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
At least. He's quoted at 190 by his coach to mask the fact that instead of putting on ten pounds of muscle in a year, he actually put on ~35. Which, in accordance with his times, would indicate some kind of extra-legal supplement.

And Lezak still kicked his ass in the 4x100! USA! USA! USA!
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post #34 of 109
8/14/08 at 9:34pm
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And Lezak still kicked his ass in the 4x100! USA! USA! USA!

Number one!

There were a lot of rumors in the int'l swimming community about Lezak and his "big muscles" in the early 2000s, but if he's cheating, I'm glad he's cheating for us.
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post #35 of 109
8/14/08 at 9:46pm
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post
Must be an outdated figure. In the first pic, he's easily 215, 220.

I agree. There is no way he is 195.
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post #36 of 109
8/14/08 at 9:48pm
The funny thing is, swimmers all look (relatively, for world-class athletes) skinny to me. Hell, NBA players are more muscular than swimmers, though their backs are usually less broad.
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post #37 of 109
8/14/08 at 9:50pm
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Originally Posted by Renault78law View Post
This seems absolutely true in my experience.

I agree. I'm not sure if the reasoning behind it is sound, but all the swimmers I've dated could eat more than me. One girl told me a story about her team heading to a small buffet restaurant after a big meet. The owner was practically in tears because they were eating everything and asking for trays to be refilled constantly. A rower I know had a similar appetite.

Every runner I've known (aside from sprinters) ate like a bird.

80 degree water is "cold" because water can pull heat from you much better than air. So maybe there is something to that idea.
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post #38 of 109
8/14/08 at 10:09pm
On the topic of eating a lot as a swimmer, check out what Phelps eats during his average day:

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/bei...urn=oly,100671

12,000 calories!
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post #39 of 109
8/14/08 at 10:57pm
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Originally Posted by Brad View Post
On the topic of eating a lot as a swimmer, check out what Phelps eats during his average day:

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/bei...urn=oly,100671

12,000 calories!

The guy clearly has an absolutely iron stomach, in addition to his other talents. Made me feel sick just reading all the stuff he eats.
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post #40 of 109
8/14/08 at 11:12pm
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
I agree. I'm not sure if the reasoning behind it is sound, but all the swimmers I've dated could eat more than me. One girl told me a story about her team heading to a small buffet restaurant after a big meet. The owner was practically in tears because they were eating everything and asking for trays to be refilled constantly. A rower I know had a similar appetite.

Like you, I'm not sure it has anything to do with temperature, though. Look at those two activities. Swimming is a whole-body exercise that burns huge amounts of calories. As someone who recently started rowing (erg, not water, unfortunately), I have a new appreciation for just how intense a workout it is--much more intense than running (aside from sprints). I think the appetite is probably largely the result of a huge caloric deficit.
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post #41 of 109
8/14/08 at 11:29pm
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Originally Posted by LabelKing View Post
This strikes me as a rather gay post.

Seriously.
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post #42 of 109
8/14/08 at 11:42pm
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Originally Posted by Saucemaster View Post
Like you, I'm not sure it has anything to do with temperature, though. Look at those two activities. Swimming is a whole-body exercise that burns huge amounts of calories.

Not as much as, say, competitive running though: Reference.


Even if you account for Phelps' size and the intensity of his training by doubling this rate, he'd use somewhere between 8-9,000 calories a day (30 hrs of swimming per week). 12,000 sounds like a real stretch.
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post #43 of 109
8/15/08 at 12:34am
And he doesn't train every day.

His average workout is supposedly burning 4000kcal (about what I'd expect).

Add that to maybe 3500 for the rest of the day...

It used to be 8,000. Then 10,000. Now 12,000. Pretty soon he'll be responsible for world hunger.

I'm personally sick of hearing about the guy. He's anthropometically gifted and trains as hard as others who aren't. Go Mr. and Mrs. Phelps!
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post #44 of 109
8/15/08 at 1:04am
Phelps trains twice a day, every day, as all international-level swimmers do. He probably does 2 in the morning, and 3 in the afternoon, plus an hour plus of lifting. Maybe he takes part of Sunday off, but he's doing closer to 40 hours per week of the most intense training in an already intense sport.
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post #45 of 109
8/15/08 at 1:52am
Well, I can't say I know much about swimming nutrition.

But I do know a lot about backpacking and mountaineering. For tough conditions; e.g. lots of altitude gain or severe cold, I generally plan a daily food intake of 2.5 to 3 lbs per person per day. This equates to about 5000 - 6000 calories. Weight loss occurs. However, with all that work, it can be hard for me to stomach any more food than that. On the trail, I usually try to drink my calories as food can sometimes sit heavy and be uncomfortable. That means big breakfast and big dinner, but light lunch.

Now, I seriously doubt I'm performing at a level near to an Olympic swimmer. So, 10k to 12k calories a day during intense training does not at all surprise me.
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