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Who Makes These shoes for Paul Stuart?

post #1 of 18
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http://www.paulstuart.com/product_in...SUBPRODCATID=0

Reminds me a lot of the JL Chapel. Calling PS got me nowhere. After playing 20 questions, I was told that the shoes were made by a firm that "has been around since 1887" and is in the same echelon as EG. Any guesses?
post #2 of 18
Grenson, I believe.
post #3 of 18
Grenson, I believe. Masterpiece quality.
post #4 of 18
Grenson. Chapel is much nicer. IMHO.
post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 
Grenson was my admittedly uneducated guess as well. Ditto on the Chapel. Thanks for the replies.
post #6 of 18
pretty sure that New & Lingwood's version is the same shoe, just different (plain) detailing. And yes, the Chapel is much nicer. Although I still kind of like the PS if they would offer it minus the broguing.
post #7 of 18
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Grenson. Chapel is much nicer. IMHO.

Yeah, I'd agree. Don't care for that crazy broguing, or for the conspicuous finish. Many of the current PS Grensons are awful.
post #8 of 18
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pretty sure that New & Lingwood's version is the same shoe, just different (plain) detailing.

And yes, the Chapel is much nicer. Although I still kind of like the PS if they would offer it minus the broguing.

Wow. Dead on. Those New & Lingwood's do actually rival the Chapel. How would you compare the construction quality? Where would N&L fall along the EG/JL/G&G spectrum?
post #9 of 18
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Wow. Dead on. Those New & Lingwood's do actually rival the Chapel. How would you compare the construction quality? Where would N&L fall along the EG/JL/G&G spectrum?
Probably more like the C & J spectrum
post #10 of 18
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Wow. Dead on. Those New & Lingwood's do actually rival the Chapel. How would you compare the construction quality? Where would N&L fall along the EG/JL/G&G spectrum?

Those New & Lingwood shoes are also Grenson Masterpieces. Or were, G-d knows if they still sell them. That was also a model Grenson sold under its own name as well before they changed their image.
post #11 of 18
Yep, the original plain version was a Grenson Masterpiece style as far back as 2001.
post #12 of 18
I've seen them in the flesh and don't love them. FWIW, one of the ebay sellers had a few pairs of these some months ago, and may still.
post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for your very helpful replies.
post #14 of 18
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I've seen them in the flesh and don't love them. FWIW, one of the ebay sellers had a few pairs of these some months ago, and may still.

I actually picked one of those pairs up; they look considerably better at $200 than $678! I'm currently trying to tone down the antiquing with some brown shoe cream. The quality is quite nice if you can get past the interesting color treatment.
post #15 of 18
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pretty sure that New & Lingwood's version is the same shoe, just different (plain) detailing.
I haven't been on the N&L site for a long time and was surprised to see that they've revived the Poulsen Skone brand name. My recollection is that this line at N&L used to be referred to as their "St. James" range. Nonetheless, they're Grenson MPs as before and similarly outlandishly-priced. Jeez, close to $800 plus shipping. Paul Stuart's prices all of a sudden look downright reasonable! Comparable to Ben Silver's prices (around $675) for C&J Handgrades. Either way, though, in my opinion these shoes (Grensons at N&L particularly, but also at PS, and C&J Handgrades at BS) are overpriced.
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