It is interesting how people with no knowledge of a subject and zero first-hand experience with the dogs involved can have such dogmatic convictions. A few simple facts: ALL dogs are natural-born fighters and killers. The natural tendency to fight present in the wolf-canine genetic heritage has been selected for in the breeding of fighting dogs. Most fighting-breed dogs are selectively aggressive toward certain dogs that pose a challenge but can be friendly and playful with those that don't. My dog's best buddy is female pit bull. They can play and roughhouse for hours (although he spends most of his time trying to rape her!) Fight drive is instinctive. I repeat, I have no idea how you can instill it. The idea that you can make a dog want to fight by beating it if it doesn't is simply preposterous. As for dogs "wanting" to fight, a friend of mine had two Tosa males. One weighed about 155 pounds, the other about 130. One day through carelessness on somebody's else part, the two got together, and a furious hour-long battle ensued. At several points the larger dog came close to killing the smaller one. However, when my friend was able to break up the fight, the smaller dog, whom he had literally rescued from the jaws of death, was still eager to continue the fray. As another dogwise friend of mine said, "That's the dog you want to breed from." Unfortunately, the smaller dog had poor hips. As an aside, I met both dogs (separately, of course), and both were gentle, friendly and playful with me. Dog aggression does not equal human aggression. Prey drive toward other animals does not equal human aggression. Black Shoes, since you repeatedly accuse me of being dense and simple-minded, I would be happy to measure my educational achievements against yours.
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