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I would not be so fast to judge. I've seen sad. You know what sad is? Being 60 years old, driving a 20 year old car not by choice, having plastic on your windows in the winter due to the drafts, and five credit cards all maxed to the limit and still have 25 years on your 30 year mortgage. There are a lot of definitions of "sad." If I had to inhabit one definition of "sad" or another I would take one of the definitions where poverty is not part of it.

The dude that is 60 and still holding on to his hooptie with plastic on his windows, maxed plastic and is upside down on his mortgage obviously made some poor choices in his life. At 16 I worked at Pathmark (sup Howard!) and anything over 28 hours was time and a half. The job was union and even tho they caught me stealing they still couldn't fire me. I quit willingly because I got the job there just because I went with a friend who was trying to get it and they offered me one too. I worked in the ice cream isle and I love ice cream. Black Moon's Enta da Stage was new then. One of the best years of my life.

I've passed on more lucrative positions because I've seen what it does to people and those whom they love. You end up old with toys you no longer want, an empty house and many regrets. No thank you.

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If life were always going to be 90-100 hour work weeks, no I couldn't do it--no matter the income potential. But it does get better. It's worst at the junior levels: analyst, associate, etc. But once you get to VP, things are much more manageable.

I've worked in this environment and that ladder takes a while to climb. Especially if you count school. Climbing it quicker means making more sacrifices sooner. Where are you really going? What is the point? Seriously, I'd like to know.
post #287 of 387
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I would not be so fast to judge. I've seen sad. You know what sad is? Being 60 years old, driving a 20 year old car not by choice, having plastic on your windows in the winter due to the drafts, and five credit cards all maxed to the limit and still have 25 years on your 30 year mortgage. There are a lot of definitions of "sad." If I had to inhabit one definition of "sad" or another I would take one of the definitions where poverty is not part of it.

The dude that is 60 and still holding on to his hooptie with plastic on his windows, maxed plastic and is upside down on his mortgage obviously made some poor choices in his life. At 16 I worked at Pathmark (sup Howard!) and anything over 28 hours was time and a half. The job was union and even tho they caught me stealing they still couldn't fire me. I quit willingly because I got the job there just because I went with a friend who was trying to get it and they offered me one too. I worked in the ice cream isle and I love ice cream. Black Moon's Enta da Stage was new then. One of the best years of my life.

I've passed on more lucrative positions because I've seen what it does to people and those whom they love. You end up old with toys you no longer want, an empty house and many regrets. No thank you.

No matter what you do you end up old. Better old with money than old and poor. Like I said, there's many kinds of "sad." If I have to pick one of those versions I'll pick one with money vs. poverty.
post #288 of 387
Money can provide a modicum of contentment, but at what cost? You can't take it with you so what are you going to do with your millions when you are past your heyday? I'm not saying to live like each day is your last but if you are living with a view that when you are old(er) having money will make things better, then you are sorely misinformed and disillusioned.
post #289 of 387
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Money can provide a modicum of contentment, but at what cost? You can't take it with you so what are you going to do with your millions when you are past your heyday? I'm not saying to live like each day is your last but if you are living with a view that when you are old(er) having money will make things better, then you are sorely misinformed and disillusioned.

I'm already past my heyday. I was dirt poor in my heyday. Trust me, being older and having money is better.
post #290 of 387
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I'm already past my heyday. I was dirt poor in my heyday. Trust me, being older and having money is better.

Consider:

Luke 12:15-21

15 Then he said to them, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.”
16 And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. 17 He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’18 “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. 19 And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’
20 “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’
21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.”
post #291 of 387
Glad I don't believe in that shit and glad as hell I'm not a fucking farmer!
post #292 of 387
There's a lot of middle ground between toiling your life away living for work and being some kind of hippie living hand to mouth squatting in a ditch. You can be successful and still have a decent life/work balance.
post #293 of 387
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There's a lot of middle ground between toiling your life away living for work and being some kind of hippie living hand to mouth squatting in a ditch. You can be successful and still have a decent life/work balance.

I agree with that. People are not leaving much room though, and if I have only a choice between subsistence and money...have come from subsistence...I pick money.

Btw Munch, good answer on law school when the old man is rich.
post #294 of 387
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Glad I don't believe in that **** and glad as hell I'm not a ****ing farmer!

You will see if you don't already. Trust.
post #295 of 387
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Glad I don't believe in that **** and glad as hell I'm not a ****ing farmer!

You will see if you don't already. Trust.

Smite me now god. Big bolt of fucking lightning.

Damn..still here.
post #296 of 387
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Smite me now god. Big bolt lightning.
Damn..still here.

Pio, you're missing the point. Did the man do anything wrong?
post #297 of 387
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Smite me now god. Big bolt lightning.
Damn..still here.

Pio, you're missing the point. Did the man do anything wrong?

You're missing the point. I don't fall for parable shit from 2000 years ago. 2012 is not the Biblical times.
post #298 of 387
OK, fair enough. Bye. (shakes dust from feet).
post #299 of 387
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Consider:
Luke 12:15-21
15 Then he said to them, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.”
16 And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. 17 He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’18 “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. 19 And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’
20 “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’
21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.”

"Money is not the most important thing in the world. Love is. Fortunately, I love money." - Jackie Mason
post #300 of 387
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There's a lot of middle ground between toiling your life away living for work and being some kind of hippie living hand to mouth squatting in a ditch. You can be successful and still have a decent life/work balance.

Why is it so hard to understand that people choose this life - at least for a period of time? Do you guys not think that these kids working until 2am on Wall St could get those 9 to 5 jobs with a better work/life balance? It's a choice that people make to achieve goals they've created for themselves - goals that are different for each of us, but clearly for those who work 80 hours a week, the goal is not to achieve "a decent work/life balance" on Day 1.
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