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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

Come on now.

What?
post #257 of 387
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This reminds me of a great joke regarding consultants / other business folk:

An American consultant was at a pier in a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.


 



The Mexican replied "Only a little while."



 



The consultant then asked why didn't he stay out longer and catch more fish?



 



The fisherman said he had enough to support his family's immediate needs.



 



Then the American asked how he spent the rest of his time.



 



The Mexican fisherman said, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, and then stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life, senor."



 



The American consultant scoffed, "I am a very successful business consultant and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and, with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, and eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then Los Angeles and eventually New York City where you will run your expanding enterprise."



 



The Mexican fisherman asked, "But senor, how long will this all take?"



 



The consultant replied, "Probably 15 to 20 years."



 



"But what then, senor?" asked the fisherman.



 



The consultant laughed, and said, "That's the best part! When the time is right, you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public. You'll become very rich, you would make millions!"



 



"Millions, senor?" replied the Mexican. "Then what?"



 



The American said, "Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos."


This is pure gold. I love having a large part of the day to spend with my family, sit on the stoop or grill on the roof, cook new recipes, troll the interwebz, drink, etc. I wouldn't trade having to work long and hard for years to own that loft downtown any day for what I have now. I was offered many opportunities for company sponsored schooling so I could pursue a "lucrative career" which I turned down.

I see my neighbors leaving in the morning and then returning home late at night. I'm wondering, WTH are you doing?? We both own comparable cars, homes (I have better clothes and shoes) you went to college, I have a GED. Ohhh, the house on the shore you get to visit like one month every year. I see....

People work hard for years chasing the “American Dream™©” putting off starting a family etc. and looking forward to relaxing and enjoying themselves in their golden years-a time when one rarely enjoys anything. Iunno man, some of you need to reevaluate your direction. Make things right with God. Imagine you had all of the bespoken clothing your heart desired, shoes, watches, homes, assets, etc. 1000 women (wives and concubines). Unparallelled wisdom. And despite all of that you still could see that it is all "striving after the wind..."
post #258 of 387
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Agree 110%. I hardly ever drank, partied only when I had some time to kill after I was done with the important things - studying, turning in assignments, etc never laid by the pool (waste of valuable time). Now I work over 65 hours a week but am happy because I never lived a fantasy life in college.
What the hell is the point? You pissed away your youth... so you can work away middle age.
But you planed on being miserable so its all good!

I went too far the other way and pissed away my youth through too much partying and not getting back to school until my late mid-20s. I paid for pissing away my late teens and early 20s by busting my ass in school and working full time to support myself in my late 20s and grad school in my early 30s. I'll never make up the opportunities I lost so I'm stuck as a salaryman forever.

I guess the take away is striving for some intelligent middle path between mkarim and me.
post #259 of 387
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

this is truth, btw.

You make it seem like I lie about everything else smile.gif
post #260 of 387
Are people really working regular 100 hour work weeks? That's 14 hour days, every single day. I can believe you might have one of those every once in a while, but I don't buy that being a regular thing.
post #261 of 387
right now i'm 12hr/day (30 min lunch) with weekends off.
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Aren't you a roughneck or something? Not a bad living, while it lasts.
post #263 of 387
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Are people really working regular 100 hour work weeks? That's 14 hour days, every single day. I can believe you might have one of those every once in a while, but I don't buy that being a regular thing.

When I was younger, I established the absolute limit was 112 hours a week (16 hours a day, seven days) and you could only do it for two consecutive weeks, and then needed to take the third weekend mostly off to recover. That's how life used to be for IB analysts (I think it's changed a little bit). I won't pretend that we did this all the time, I probably did it six or eight weeks a year, and the normal workload was something in the 80 hour range.

The big difference in jumping from 40 hours to 80 hours is working both weekend days - 80 is a lot more manageable as six 12+ hour days and a half day on Sunday.
post #264 of 387
pfft 50 hour weeks? *scoff*
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pfft 50 hour weeks? *scoff*

this is basically 90% of the posts in this thread distilled down to four words and a sound effect
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Originally Posted by Big Pun View Post

Aren't you a roughneck or something? Not a bad living, while it lasts.
me? I guess you could group me in that category lol
post #267 of 387
50 hours? jesus... i wish i could work 50 hours a week. i'm at the point where i am lucky enough that a lot of my hours are meetings/lunches/site visits/travel with clients that i actually like. so i don't really consider it work. i'm actually more bored and looking for stuff to do when i am at home.

i think the key here is to do something you like enough that it doesn't seem like work. of course nobody wants to be an excel monkey... if someone tells you they love making financial models and spread sheets all day, they are lying. but i can tell you it is fun/challenging/engaging to do financial models/spread sheets when it's a project/company you like. so i would encourage you to look at it that way.

also, of the 80 or so hours i 'work' a week. much of that is downtime between meetings, etc. i'm sure you'll find it amazing how inefficient the corporate world is with its time management.
post #268 of 387
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Are people really working regular 100 hour work weeks? That's 14 hour days, every single day. I can believe you might have one of those every once in a while, but I don't buy that being a regular thing.

You work hours like that in investment banking. My average weekday hours during my first year as an associate were from 9am to midnight. That's 15 hours a day, 75 hours for the regular work week. It could be better sometimes and it could be worse. Then add anywhere from zero to 30 hours per weekend, with the average somewhere in the middle.

The analysts have it even worse. When we had a slow period, some of the analysts were leaving the office before midnight. Our staffing VP sent out an e-mail to the whole group admonishing them. They were told, under no circumstances, should they be gone before midnight on a weekday.
post #269 of 387
That is just plain ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

You work hours like that in investment banking. My average weekday hours during my first year as an associate were from 9am to midnight. That's 15 hours a day, 75 hours for the regular work week. It could be better sometimes and it could be worse. Then add anywhere from zero to 30 hours per weekend, with the average somewhere in the middle.
The analysts have it even worse. When we had a slow period, some of the analysts were leaving the office before midnight. Our staffing VP sent out an e-mail to the whole group admonishing them. They were told, under no circumstances, should they be gone before midnight on a weekday.

this is about right.

also important to note, for those of us working those hours, you have to think in terms or working hours and billable hours. this is what i was trying to convey in the previous post. there is so much downtime it's insane. of the 80 - 100 hours those in such positions are there. i'd say at least 4 hours a day are spent doing nothing. you're simply being paid to be there IN CASE something comes up. anyone that tells you investment banking/finance is hard work is full of shit. especially the lower level people working those insane hours, your just an excel monkey. it's not hard work, it's just a lot of work with intensive deadlines. speaking from experience, you can get a call from a client or a senior person telling you they need something changed in a pitch or a model or something of the deal structure has changed, that will take you 8 hours, and if they ask you to do that at 9 PM on a saturday.... well, you're going into the office at 9 pm on a saturday and staying until 3 or 4 am. if there is any sort of pitch or model that requires you to actually do 16 hours of straight work, you either don't have a strong facility with what your job requires of you, or your boss is a dick and only gives you every project at the last minute.
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