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post #31 of 104
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God is GOOD. God is so good to me.

Yeah, but which one??
post #32 of 104
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Yeah, but which one??

The one who's been so GOOD to me, dear.
post #33 of 104
Why?
post #34 of 104
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The one who's been so GOOD to me, dear.

Excellent - please remember to share when you are done.
post #35 of 104
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If different peoples were created by different, and possibly rival, gods, then we could and maybe should wage war w/o restraint.

The theory of a common origin that stems historically from monotheism has done much to prevent the existence of and to mitigate the severity of war.

Is this true? Have there been fewer and less severe wars since the advent of monotheism? Even a little, over thousands of years? This sounds like a factual claim!

I'd also like some support for the theory behind it. What if historically polytheistic civilizations were relatively ecumenical and tolerant (out of necessity!) and rarely used differences in religious interpretation as a sole pretext for war or, heaven forbid, genocide? What if societies of all religious stripes turned out, historically, to always have roughly the same percentage of warmongering zealots coming to power?

Actually, I believe"common origin" justifies a much more troubling practice: proselytizing. I've seen many countries where the missionary wedge destroyed and perverted deep, fascinating, and ancient cultures. I think there are good reasons to oppose this trend. Also, I've seen people (of many colors) bow willingly to the gods of their conquerers, yet many cannot even name the gods of their ancestors. I can't put my finger on why this bothers me.
post #36 of 104
Arguably, one deterrence to war in a polytheist society is the time lag it takes for the various god to agree upon a grand strategy and then communicate it to the populace. In a monotheist world, the one vengeful god can communicate her desires without interference.
post #37 of 104
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The theory of a common origin that stems historically from monotheism has done much to prevent the existence of and to mitigate the severity of war.

I dont know about this. Im not one of those guys who claims religion is responsible for most wars (Its just a handy pretext) but I doubt very much that monotheism has in any way reduced the number of wars or mitigated their severity.


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What event moved you to write this, matadorpoeta

Im guessing it was some primo sensi that lived up to its billing.
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post #39 of 104
religions dont start wars, governments do and use religion as their scapegoat. Its allways been about economics. These days, we are becoming more honest and some governments admit its purely economics. Must be refreshing for the people that watch the intergalactic soap called earth..

As far as god goes, there is no proof in my knowledge that something exists in the forms that we attribute to it. Then again there is no proof that denies its existence... Which makes the whole idea of it a "fancy" as Schopenhauer calls it...confusing aint it?
post #40 of 104
I've never known who my father was.........until now.
post #41 of 104
If God made all of us... Then who made God? Shit! my eye just popped out.
post #42 of 104
God gave rock and roll to you Jesus build my hotrod
post #43 of 104
God made all of us... but who did he make better?
post #44 of 104
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This is a good thread. That one God made all people is a fundamental fact, the value of which is often unappreciated. If different peoples were created by different, and possibly rival, gods, then we could and maybe should wage war w/o restraint. The theory of a common origin that stems historically from monotheism has done much to prevent the existence of and to mitigate the severity of war. Of course, as Thomas implied, we are not as God made us (in a way), so wars -- and severe wars -- still occur. But such, I believe, is the failure and not the achievement of monotheism.
Can you site your sources that back up your fact? I'm going to need a scientific source. Thanks
post #45 of 104
Anybody wanna hold hands and start singing that Joan Osbourne song?
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