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post #301 of 477
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Originally Posted by cdmoore1855 View Post
I would not want a last from Kow Hoo, the one pair I got from them are pretty much unwearable.

They are a very poor fit and I wear them for very short periods of time. They make their shoes in China in likely 3 days by machines and then charge hefty prices saying they are made in HK and take 8 months to make by hand.

Sorry to hear that. Mine was good fit and they are not machine made at all.
post #302 of 477
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Originally Posted by cdmoore1855 View Post
I would not want a last from Kow Hoo, the one pair I got from them are pretty much unwearable.

They are a very poor fit and I wear them for very short periods of time. They make their shoes in China in likely 3 days by machines and then charge hefty prices saying they are made in HK and take 8 months to make by hand.

Doesn't Hong Kong have consumer laws about this? Saying its made in HK SAR when it is made in PRC and saying its handmade when its made by machine.
post #303 of 477
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Originally Posted by Jangofett View Post
Doesn't Hong Kong have consumer laws about this? Saying its made in HK SAR when it is made in PRC and saying its handmade when its made by machine.

Jangofett,

hahaha, yes, HK has those laws, but you can't prove the case.
How to define "handmade"? they are hand lasted and hand sewn sole, will that be considered "handmade"? Is using a sewing machine or sole stitching machine classified machine made? I doubt.
Then you don't have any prove that those pair are made in China, so case dismissed.
And also if the shoe are clicked, closed, and lasted in HK, then "made" in China, then ship back to finished in HK, I don't know by laws, will it be ok to said it is made in HK.
Actually many cloth is made by the similar ways to be classified "made in so and so"
post #304 of 477
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Originally Posted by Jangofett View Post
Doesn't Hong Kong have consumer laws about this? Saying its made in HK SAR when it is made in PRC and saying its handmade when its made by machine.

HK has no bloody laws at all. Its a snake pit here

I have not taken the shoes apart but lets just say if a pair of G&G or Cleverleys are a 10, these would be a 3 at best. Most good UK RTW are better.

I don't believe they are made in HK, I visited their factory in Northpoint and saw no one there making shoes, nor anyone who looked at all capable. I was told by another HK shoe maker that Kow Hoo make in China like everyone else and they don't take anywhere near 8 months to make, that is just to justify the pricing.
post #305 of 477
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Originally Posted by cdmoore1855 View Post
HK has no bloody laws at all. Its a snake pit here

I have not taken the shoes apart but lets just say if a pair of G&G or Cleverleys are a 10, these would be a 3 at best. Most good UK RTW are better.

I don't believe they are made in HK, I visited their factory in Northpoint and saw no one there making shoes, nor anyone who looked at all capable. I was told by another HK shoe maker that Kow Hoo make in China like everyone else and they don't take anywhere near 8 months to make, that is just to justify the pricing.

hahaha, C. Yes, they are old and look uncapable, but they do make shoe.
Most if not all other HK shoemakers don't have good words about Kowhoo, they couldn't conceal their envy of kowhoo. I heard a lot of their stories about each other. Actually, they don't have a clue how and what kowhoo is doing.
post #306 of 477
Fishball:

Ngoh Christmas faan HK and I will be going to Zee's...

Lei yull mo c gaan meet up and maybe help translate? My "technical" Canto isn't the best.

Maybe a get together and go to Armoury too
post #307 of 477
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Fishball:

Ngoh Christmas faan HK and I will be going to Zee's...

Lei yull mo c gaan meet up and maybe help translate? My "technical" Canto isn't the best.

Maybe a get together and go to Armoury too

Hahaha, but I can't understand what you were saying, how can I translate?
Please type in english, I can't read those "cantonese", luk cha may be better than me to read those cantonese.
BTW, Zee speak english, so you don't need translation.
post #308 of 477
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Originally Posted by Fishball View Post
Hahaha, but I can't understand what you were saying, how can I translate?
Please type in english, I can't read those "cantonese", luk cha may be better than me to read those cantonese.
BTW, Zee speak english, so you don't need translation.

太對不起我不明白
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太对不起我不明白
post #309 of 477
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Originally Posted by NORE View Post
No expericence with Zee's but;

IIRC I had this problem with some AEs. I believe either they are cut too high at that part for your foot or the foot bed isn't padded enough. You may wish to add a half or whole insole to the shoe to gain some height. Half (you just use or buy the heel part if the toe box doesn't have extra room) or whole if you have enough room in the insole.

Thanks, I'll try this.

I have to say, my Zees are turning out to be pretty uncomfortable/painful to wear, even more uncomfortable than some of my RTW shoes, which is a real shame. Not only do they cut into the side of my foot, the leather digs into the top of my big toe when I walk (i.e. where the shoe creases). They may get slightly more comfortable with repreated use over time, but I'm surprised that a shoe which has been measured to fit my foot is turning out to be so painful to wear.
post #310 of 477
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Originally Posted by Fishball View Post
No lastmaker in hong kong anymore. Kow Hoo make their own last but they don't sell it.
I use JV China to make my bespoke last.
Or you can ask Springline in england made it.
Or you can ask flitzl help to order one for you.

Thanks for the tip,
but whats JV china?

and does Zees even make shoes on a last brought in by me?
post #311 of 477
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Originally Posted by Dib View Post
Thanks, I'll try this.

I have to say, my Zees are turning out to be pretty uncomfortable/painful to wear, even more uncomfortable than some of my RTW shoes, which is a real shame. Not only do they cut into the side of my foot, the leather digs into the top of my big toe when I walk (i.e. where the shoe creases). They may get slightly more comfortable with repreated use over time, but I'm surprised that a shoe which has been measured to fit my foot is turning out to be so painful to wear.

I too have experienced the toe crunch issue with my Zees. I think the problem stems from the fact that their leather is very very stiff. This would also contribute to the issue on the side. I've been wearing mine for a few weeks and the problem has certainly lessened as the leather softens a bit. Maybe some leather conditioner or sftener might help a bit as well. Good luck!
post #312 of 477
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Originally Posted by Selvaggio View Post
I too have experienced the toe crunch issue with my Zees. I think the problem stems from the fact that their leather is very very stiff. This would also contribute to the issue on the side. I've been wearing mine for a few weeks and the problem has certainly lessened as the leather softens a bit. Maybe some leather conditioner or sftener might help a bit as well. Good luck!

+1

On the other hand, an order I made via email (I've made one in person previously) didn't quite turn out the way I planned design-wise. Lost in translation I reckon.

They said to take it back. We'll see if they charge me.
post #313 of 477
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Originally Posted by Dib View Post
Thanks, I'll try this.

I have to say, my Zees are turning out to be pretty uncomfortable/painful to wear, even more uncomfortable than some of my RTW shoes, which is a real shame. Not only do they cut into the side of my foot, the leather digs into the top of my big toe when I walk (i.e. where the shoe creases). They may get slightly more comfortable with repreated use over time, but I'm surprised that a shoe which has been measured to fit my foot is turning out to be so painful to wear.

It is a shame, but if it's any consolation I've had a similar experience with $1,250 RLPL shoes made by EG. I sold them, bought them back, then sold them again. Life is too short to endure unnecessary foot pain.
post #314 of 477
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Originally Posted by cocteau View Post
Thanks for the tip,
but whats JV china?

and does Zees even make shoes on a last brought in by me?

I think JV is the last and only last company in US, they have factories in many asia contries include China. Ordering bespoke last is not an easy job. It is not just drawing footprint and measurments. You have to know what you want and able to communicate to the factories. They are factories making last for shoe company. However, JV US do have a bespoke dept. DW will know better than me about them.

I think Zee will do, but will tell you he is not accountable for the fit.
post #315 of 477
Heading to Zee's on saturday after picking up my, hopefully, finished suit from Chan's. I am having the 'cloth shoe' fitting first, then I get to pick and play with the 'French calf' leathers. Looking forward to it. I saw a pair of Dainite soles on a readily accessible shelf, and am thinking possibly of a pair of brogues for my first pair. On the other hand, a pair of wholecuts with discrete brogueing on the cap have also piqued my interest. Any helpful suggestions? Zee's could be a godsend in shoeing my broad size thirteens, and all for just slightly more than a shirt from Chan's! Do Zee's also provide wooden shoe trees?
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