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post #16 of 22
Unlike anonymous forum members, we know who J. D. Erickson is and he seems to want judge others based on their style (or lack thereof) and their clothes quality. It's the flip side of telling your $25,000 per year office assistant that you're wearing a $3,000 Oxxford suit -just bad manners. Most forum members here are only interested in how they themselves dress and how to improve their own style. You dress for yourself and judge those around you "in real life" by their skills and contributions, not their clothes. That said, and because I know none of your judgmental, what color tie would you wear with a lime green short-sleeve Van Heusen dress shirt and a dark green polyester four-button suit?
post #17 of 22
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Brown of course.
post #18 of 22
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I don't think he's a jerk so much as a totally aloof faux-member of the "elite."  I don't mean to sound rude, but he was basically a floor salesman at a retail store until he got some sort of job with MB.  While certainly I would never disparage that as a profession, to then turn's one nose up at people who shop at Louis merely during sale week is utterly maddening to me.  I must say that it is probably very, very easy to dress stylishly if you work at Louis -- you get deep discounts, you have access to the best clothes (quality and style), and there is absolutely no expectation that you dress "conservatively," which is something he disparages Manhattan businessmen for doing.  He simply has no sense of the real world.
I found some of his articles interesting; and he should be applauded for putting up the Frazier article. But he is a bit of snob, isn't he?
post #19 of 22
Ouch guys Probably if you had met John, you might not feel quite the same. Anyways, he has a right to his opinion, and he hits the nail on the head in a lot of areas I think.
post #20 of 22
Another thing, Louis' markup is modest, compared to other stores. I was surprised to find a lot of items selling for substantially less at retail than items of the same line/label at Saks, Neimans tec, though the Louis merchandise is almost always superior. Also, got to look at it from Louis perspective - at 50-60% off, you are likely buying at cost or only slightly above it. Those salesmen are there to sell at full price, not cost, or else Louis would cease to exist. If you only shop sales, you are not going to be the customer they are going to want to cultivate. No worries, just make your purchases and leave happily.. If service is important to you, John is right, it is going to cost you. Nothing is free.
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there are such things as knowledgable customers who realize that retail prices are inflated and understand clothing enough to shop without heavy assistance, and that customers shouldn't be condescended for trying to maximize their utility at a cost within their means.
John agrees with you. From one of his articles:
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TWO. Shop sales at finer stores. Most department stores have good season-end sales and frequently at 50% off. If you want guidance for your sale purchases, befriend a salesperson beforehand to discuss your needs and limits. Be upfront with them and they should do likewise. (Some salespeople won't want anything to do with you and they'll make it clear. It is rude, yes, but move on. Someone in the store would like to deal with you; find them.) A better salesperson will work within the limits you impose, financial or stylistic or otherwise, and sometimes will give you advance notice of sales or special promotions.
The key here is being upfront with the salesman, and being realistic. Don't expect him to give you priority of you are a sale-only customer. Respect that and he will probably respect you. I first spoke with John about two years ago when I called Louis asking for Lattanzi shoes on sale. I was upfront about the fact that I only buy at steep discounts, and he was still very helpful. In fact, a year and a half later when Gabor mentioned my name to him, he remembered exactly who I was from that one phone call..
post #21 of 22
I don't have a problem with that, and he probably is a nice guy. I will say this about sales, though. Stores need sale customers, too. Referencing the other thread where Jon of FIH broke down the retail model of sales, stores need those dollars and therefore those customers in order to survive. If they didn't then they wouldn't have sales, would they? It also seems to me that treating sales customers well might just be a way to cultivate a sale customer into a regular customer. There are some higher end stores locally that I browse regularly and pick up the odd item from, but I can't afford to shop at any of them retail. There's one of them in particular that has always treated me very well. It's small, but very nice, and is owned by a husband-wife team who seem to deal directly with all the customers (I've never seen an employee in there). They've made me want to buy from them. And one of these days, when I'm in that position I will. It took nothing on their part but some manners and respect.
post #22 of 22
i found his bibliography interesting along with some of his essays about himself albeit a bit too obsessed with clothing...i thought i was too interested in this area;not so much after reading this obsessive...he should lighten up a little and try to find the joy of dressing well for oneself
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