I was introduced to this site ( SF ) by a 'seduction community' member. I wanted to improve my social life, which would mean acceptance and such. I had no style per se, didn't know what been attractive would entail, didn't understand how to make and keep a social circle. Never had a girlfriend. Introversion, but not creepiness was my lifestyle. After meeting the community. I have and now maintain a balanced and decent style, SF standard with my own variations. And all of you guys 'peacock' whether you like it or not; being better dressed than the average JOE, gets attention. Thats just how works. I have a decent social circle, my job as of now is because of 'sarging' or socializing, which ever sounds more acceptable to you, I don't care. Interaction with beautiful, sexy ( read: HOT ) women is a mere norm, while guys are out there viewing these women as luxuries walking down the street or at that coffee shop, across that study hall or at that bus stop, or that backyard party doubting themselves, ( yeah i know it happens to you sometimes ) i realized its nothing to give that woman a chance to meet me and it remains way more exciting than just staring at them; wishing I had there numbers or such. This Is not Bragging. This is the benefit of the community. It hurts me now to see guys settle. While you all may not have none of these problems, there are guys who do. While some of you are satisfied with monogamous relationships, some guys aren't. All in all i have achieved a lot in this area of my life by being introduced to the 'seduction community', all for FREE. I have BALANCED my life, its social and intellectual parts. So don't knock those guys, for helping out people. And I hear you guys on the manipulation thing, the community is now staring away from that. People used mystery's methods as props when they NEEDED it,( what do i tlk about ? ) but when they understand the process, it just becomes useless to recite stories when you have your own, to lie about social circles when they can 'smell' your value. I was never really a fan of mystery's methods, but I understand his ideology. EDIT: Shoreman explain to me what is your idea of pick-up and where do you find these women that dont need to be picked up, please. Also this is not an argument.