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lance konami 
Nowhere near the level Ross Jeffries teaches, but yes. Anytime you're teaching guys techniques to manipulate the girl into thinking you are more "in demand" than you really are, higher status than you really are, more uninterested than you really are, and when you're entire interaction with them is based on a script, then you're deceiving them. You are not the guy she sees when she meets you in the club. You're a phony, a fraud and you're simply putting on a show. There's no honesty or integrity in that.
I like Mystery out of all the Pick-Up Masters. He's the one that stresses the importance of learning how to have healthy social interactions along with building a life. Some guys already have their shit down in life, but they don't have the skills to present it to women in an attractive manner. My friend, T is a real smart kid whose in some prestigious college with the help of scholarships, he has a bunch of hobbies, a fairly decent social life, and is probably on his way to becoming rich, but he can't get girls. Learning Mystery-esque stuff would only be beneficial to him. Showing that other women want you, that you're high status, and you're not too interested isn't deception if it's true to your lifestyle. His scripts are meant to be practice for the newer guys. Imagine being a nerdy ass chump all your life, you would need some "equipment" to give you the confidence to approach women. After slowly building up all that confidence they'll be comfortable enough with random women to drop the scripts. He doesn't want people to used canned stuff for their entire pick-up career.
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Originally Posted by
lance konami 
Then again, all is fair in love and war, right?
Can't disagree. Women fake to men all the time, so a few guys in a community that are learning how to lie about their lives to women doesn't bother me at all. I care about results not intentions.