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They did have some Brionis, but for $1500, it was still too steep. They had some Hickey Freeman LTD for $400, but I'd rather pay $100 more for the Collection label. The best potential deal I saw was Luciano Barbera suits for $600, marked down from $2450. But, and correct me if I'm mistaken, they were FUSED. What is up with that? I was under the impression on this board that a Barbera that cost that much would be fully canvassed? It did have pad stitched lapels -- with gorgeous pick stitching -- and I loved the cut (flat front trousers though), but I coulnd't justify paying 600 for a fused suit.
post #2 of 22
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The best potential deal I saw was Luciano Barbera suits for $600, marked down from $2450. But, and correct me if I'm mistaken, they were FUSED.
Yep, saw those. They are lousy suits really, and most definitely fused. Not worth the money. Century 21 wasn't the spot for tailored clothing, but it was GREAT for sportswear.
post #3 of 22
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A. Harris, I didn't check out the sportswear because it was a zoo. I did see some great Zanella blazers though. I ended up purchasing a half dozen merino wool socks from Lorenzo Uomo. Did you buy any sportswear there? For me, I pretty much stick to J Crew, Banana, and Polo for my sportswear and casual wear. I'm just so accustmed to those brands. In my book nothing beats the Filenes Basement suit events when they have HF Collection, Oxxford, etc. by the score. But I still have to check out the NM Last Call sales as well as the regular NM's last call.
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Pardon me, fused jackets from Luciano Barbera?
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I picked up an Isaia there last weekend. What did you guys think of those? The quality seemed superb to my admittedly untrained eye.
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Ok, so I wasn't going insane when I saw those last week, I was begining to doubt my judgement. Though fused, the material on those Barbera's was phenomenal, as was the fit and the pick stitching on the lapel. I thought the 3-button stance was a bit high too. All the Brioni's there seemed to be made from second-rate material. Too bad I couldn't try them on due to the stupid security device chaining them to the rack. I hate it when stores do this. Which Century21 were you at? Sounds like the Long Island one.
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Pardon me, fused jackets from Luciano Barbera?
Yes, the ones with this label: I was at the store across from the World Trade Center site. And yes, the Isaia's were nice. I didn't buy any sportswear, but I saw some nice things and there is such a range of merchandise to choose from I have no doubt the place would make me broke if I lived in NY.
post #8 of 22
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Yes, the ones with this label:
I have to concur with Andrew on this one. The fused Barbera's are very dissappointing. Much worse than the fused Isaia's that raised such an uproar. I haven't really looked at the new "Z" Zegna line to see how their new fused creation is. I do know that it is an attempt to replace "soft." I also saw some ebay sellers unloading them at regulkar Zegna prices.
post #9 of 22
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Much worse than the fused Isaia's that raised such an uproar.
Those fused Isaia's have been growing on me. Still no substitute for a canvased suit but as fused suits go they aren't bad. Very light, natural shoulders and some decent fabrics...
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Pardon me, fused jackets from Luciano Barbera?
Yes, the ones with this label: I was at the store across from the World Trade Center site. And yes, the Isaia's were nice. I didn't buy any sportswear, but I saw some nice things and there is such a range of merchandise to choose from I have no doubt the place would make me broke if I lived in NY.
Interesting, I've never seen that Club suits personally but I had a conversation with a Barbera reps in NYC, Michal Sestak; he said that the Club label was discontinued a few years ago but they were fully-canvassed although they are not as handmade as the Sartoriale line. If I remember correctly he quoted me 60/40 (or 70/30, something like that) hand/machine.
post #11 of 22
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The Isaia's were nice, but I disliked the fit on me (and they didn't have my size).  As for Brioni, I agree that the fabrics were less than first rate.  I expected more.  And those security devices are idiotic -- I tried a jacket on and the guy made me feel guilty for not buying it after all the trouble he had to go through to remove the security device.   The Barberas were definitely fused, though I agree that the fabric was beautiful.  I like the button stance while leaving the top button undone.  Really the best buy in that store may have been the Zanella sports jackets for $159.  Fully canvassed and SUPER SOFT wool -- maybe cashmere blend, but I didn't check. I was in the World Trade Center store by the way.
post #12 of 22
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Those fused Isaia's have been growing on me. Still no substitute for a canvased suit but as fused suits go they aren't bad. Very light, natural shoulders and some decent fabrics...
I know what you mean. I have always maintained that the USA made Hugo Boss's were the best fused suit that money could buy, but the Isaia's are pretty nice. Maybe it is that now that we are used to seeing them, and done saying "how dissappointing" we are looking a little more critically.
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 I have always maintained that the USA made Hugo Boss's were the best fused suit that money could buy,
I loathe the Hugo Boss suits sold in the US. For some reason the HB suits in Italy seemed much more elegant in terms of fit and styling. The US versions are geared towards fat guys. It's funny how so many guys in the US think that HB suits are top shelf.
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The US versions are geared towards fat guys. It's funny how so many guys in the US think that HB suits are top shelf.
Well, I am a bit fat so.... I don't think you will have anyone here claim that Hugo Boss (non-baldessarini) are top-shelf. As for regular line that is sold here in the States, there is a very wide range of quality, all bearing the same label. I have seen some made in Croatia, Mexico, and God knows where else. There are some that are made in the US. Not sure by who, but I think that you will find that those that are made in the US and carried by Neiman Marcus for instance can be found in very nice fabrics and well constructed for a fused suit.
post #15 of 22
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I actually just bought a HB USA today -- might wear it for my wedding (the bride would freak if i spent more than 500/600). I got a black two button (rare to find) at Bloomies for under 400. I actually think you are wrong about it geared toward fat guys. Sure, you have to size down potentially, but the model I got (Galile/Sigma) is very good for my trim fit, though I admit that the cut is not Eddie Slim in the shoulders or anything. It tapers moderatly in the waist though, and the arms are nicely proportioned. A good buy for the money -- the fusing really is the thinnest I'm felt, rivaled perhaps only by Polo/Corneliani.
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