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Hi friends, I've asked some of these questions before (though I didn't get much of a response) so I hope (actually, pray) this post does not annoy anyone. (1) Does Hilditch and Key / Turnbull & Asser manufacture shirts in precise neck and sleeve sizes? If not, what is the typical sleeve size for 16" neck? (2) Do H&K and T&A shirts cost more here in the US compared to in the UK? (3) When do H&K and T&A have sales in the US and UK? (4) In what ways are H&K and T&A shirts superior to those tailored by Jantzen? Thanks Beautiful collar on a H&K:
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Gregory, I'll try my best to answer a few of your questions: 1) H&K shirts that I've seen/sold have measurments like '17R'. I suppose that a '17L' would have longer arms and longer tails. However, a T&A shirt that I just picked up just has the 16 - no sleeve length or S/R/L. 2) I think with the dollar being pretty on par with the Euro, and the dollar being weaker than the pound, the prices are going to be fairly standard wherever you go. At least that's what I've heard. The only exception would be if there is a better sale in the UK. 3) Not sure. However, if you know your size, go on Ebay for 24-7 sale prices. 4) I think the construction and fabrics are fairly similar for Jantzen and H&K/T&A. Jantzen just offers you lower prices because they buy their fabric in bulk clearance and their labor is much cheaper. Plus, H&K/T&A can charge a premium for their name, because consumers trust them to provide a quality product. BTW, I think you might have seen the photos I posted about the H&K shirts I purchased to resell, but one of them was light blue just like that one (except with a white pattern over) and had a beautiful spread collar like that. Unfortunately, didn't get any bids
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Oh, and as far as sleeve lengths: My H&K said '17R' and the sleeve length was equivellent to a 34/35. I'd assume a '17S' would have 32/33 and a '17L' would have 36/37. On the T&A I have that is just marked '16', the sleeve length fits me like a 34/35.
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As usual, my thanks, VersaceMan If other people care to fill in where this gentleman left off...
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(1) Does Hilditch and Key / Turnbull & Asser manufacture shirts in precise neck and sleeve sizes? If not, what is the typical sleeve size for 16" neck?
As VersaceMan wrote, H&K sell their shirts in two sleeve lengths per collar size, whereas I've only ever seen T&A shirts come in one sleeve length per collar size. I would think that an H&K 16R would have 34 or 35-inch sleeves, while a 16L would have sleeves about two inches longer. A T&A 16 would probably have 36 or 37-inch sleeves (the idea being that you can shorten sleeves, but you can't lengthen them). H&K or T&A should be able to tell you for sure if you call or e-mail.
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(2) Do H&K and T&A shirts cost more here in the US compared to in the UK?
H&K shirts in the US start at around $195. They start at around £70 in the UK. If my math is correct, VAT in the UK is around 17.5%, so the ex-VAT price for H&K shirts would be around £59.60. At 1.83 USD per pound, that translates to around $109 per shirt. (All math is approximate.) The situation with T&A shirts is comparable.
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(3) When do H&K and T&A have sales in the US and UK?
US retailers typically have a couple of big sales per year, one during mid-to-late winter and one in mid-to-late summer. I don't know about UK retailers.
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(4) In what ways are H&K and T&A shirts superior to those tailored by Jantzen?
I've never seen a Jantzen shirt, so I can't compare that to H&K and T&A. However, I can tell you that H&K and T&A RTW shirts really aren't anything special. The T&A collar shape is unique and classic, and both brands often have interesting fabrics. The overall quality of the product, however, isn't really commensurate with the price.
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