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Zamb just wants to share how his leather jackets were made.

 

Similar to Fok, what's a good way of dying a red horsehide jacket darker, it's already dyed (obviously).

post #9422 of 12620
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
 

I'm going to post this for @Zamb, mainly because he is probably the only person who might know the answer, but please, if anyone else has tried this and knows the answer, please tell me.

 

I'm been thinking of using a discharge dye on leather.  I think that it could be a cool effect, and I could also play with graphics and color blocking.  The leather is not drum dyed, so I'm fairly confident that the color will leach.  However, I'm concerned that the treatment might leave the leather brittle and dry.  Also, I have to do all this post manufacture, for logistical reasons.

 

Thoughts?  

I know when you dye leather for the second time it will always gets dry and thats why you just condition it after before you wear it. Many people like to fill a jacket with newspapers to form the shape of a body during the process. 

post #9423 of 12620
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Originally Posted by JSAN View Post
 

Zamb just wants to share how his leather jackets were made.

 

Similar to Fok, what's a good way of dying a red horsehide jacket darker, it's already dyed (obviously).

Use liberal amounts of Obenauf's or another leather oild, and apply evening.  I'v done this more than once.  The secret, of course, is care, amd persistence. No shortcuts.

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Originally Posted by einstine View Post
 

I know when you dye leather for the second time it will always gets dry and thats why you just condition it after before you wear it. Many people like to fill a jacket with newspapers to form the shape of a body during the process. 

It's not that.  Discharge dye is a pretty harsh treatment.  You are actually leaching dye from the leather, and it's not kind to materials.  I just wanted to know the extent of the damage, and how I might treat it post dyeing process.

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Originally Posted by JSAN View Post
 

Zamb just wants to share how his leather jackets were made.

 

Similar to Fok, what's a good way of dying a red horsehide jacket darker, it's already dyed (obviously).

 

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Originally Posted by einstine View Post
 

I know when you dye leather for the second time it will always gets dry and thats why you just condition it after before you wear it. Many people like to fill a jacket with newspapers to form the shape of a body during the process. 

 

Agreed,

thanks, and wanted to bust einstine's balls a little bit............LOL
@einstine, there is no love lost between me an you, if you know me in person you will realize I am a shoot from the hip person who does not hold grudges, but treats everyone with respect, until they provoke me to not.................We are cool, so you can sheath your sword as I have done so with mine. and yes, its always a pleasure for me to share my work/ knowledge with others. its a part of my work that I do enjoy.

post #9426 of 12620
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
 

I'm going to post this for @Zamb, mainly because he is probably the only person who might know the answer, but please, if anyone else has tried this and knows the answer, please tell me.

 

I'm been thinking of using a discharge dye on leather.  I think that it could be a cool effect, and I could also play with graphics and color blocking.  The leather is not drum dyed, so I'm fairly confident that the color will leach.  However, I'm concerned that the treatment might leave the leather brittle and dry.  Also, I have to do all this post manufacture, for logistical reasons.

 

Thoughts?  


LA,

 

Yes you can use a discharge dye on leather,

discharge dyes are usually the same chemical structure as the ones used for cold process dyeing.  the treatment will require treating leather with vinegar to neutralize the effects of the dye on the leather and then lots of leather conditioner. better to use a conditioner that is more of an oil than a cream, this way the conditioner will penetrate the structure/ pores of the leather and restore the moisture.

Avoid anything that has Alcohol in it, as this is the biggest destructive force in drying out the moisture of the leather and causing it to crack.

post #9427 of 12620
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Originally Posted by Zamb View Post
 

 

 

Agreed,

thanks, and wanted to bust einstine's balls a little bit............LOL
@einstine, there is no love lost between me an you, if you know me in person you will realize I am a shoot from the hip person who does not hold grudges, but treats everyone with respect, until they provoke me to not.................We are cool, so you can sheath your sword as I have done so with mine. and yes, its always a pleasure for me to share my work/ knowledge with others. its a part of my work that I do enjoy.

I partially understood your writing, is your response written in artisanal grammar? If so that is why I do not understand all of it. :rotflmao:

 

Okay all jokes aside, I hope you realize that my response pages back was not directed towards disliking you or your product, I don’t even understand how you misinterpreted it that way. Also your written paragraphs and angry words directed to me were irrelevant, completely unnecessary, and slightly childish especially for someone that owns a clothing company. 

 

Would love for you to be a regular poster on here, and share some info and thoughts with all of us. 

post #9428 of 12620
FInally got to try on this burgundy Balmain biker, it's a great jacket but it is way more padded than picture have you believed. The sleeves almost seems like it is downfilled. Fits real small too, they only had a 50 in-store and it fits me about right and that is coming from someone who wears a 44 in a 5-zip.
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And speaking of 5zips, they have new one that looked grey and are pretty thick, which is surprising considering it is probably for the SS14 season. Not sure what kind of leather it is though, it had some texture.


Also exchanged my 5zip for this instead. People hate the buttons but I really don't mind it at all, it's more of a leather shirt design I guess.
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post #9429 of 12620
5 zip is overrated. period.
post #9430 of 12620
^finally a voice of reason, its the camry of high end leathers
post #9431 of 12620
Most Ricks must be Chryslers on cinder blocks then.
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5-zip's are grail cops for many people they might be overrated... or better put "over-talked" about too much on forums, but how many people actually own one? just because a ton of people talk about something does not necessarily mean its overrated. 

post #9433 of 12620
Having owned and tried on numerous leathers, the 5-zip is not even close to overrated. The fit is phenomenal, the leathers can be great (depending on season and origin) and its a classic silhouette. I also prefer leather jackets without ribbing because they show age less, and the design is very minimal with large pieces of hide being used. Not to mention the price, which tends to hit 30% off most seasons making it relatively accessible for a "baller" leather jacket. That rick leather shirt/jacket is a bad trade in imo, you have to cuff the sleeves up just for it to be normal.
post #9434 of 12620

^Not all 5-zips were created equal.

 

Also, by darker I meant making it nearly black, with a tinge of the original red.

post #9435 of 12620
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Originally Posted by Fycus View Post

That rick leather shirt/jacket is a bad trade in imo, you have to cuff the sleeves up just for it to be normal.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's Ann D. While I agree with the comment regarding the cuffs (I don't believe those are the standard buttoned cuffs on the jacket), I think the jacket itself is very nice. I mean after all, when it comes to design, it's all subjective anyways.

 

EDIT: Do I think the trade was worth it? Personally, no. But if the jacket was more suited towards what you wear, then by all means, the trade was fine. That's what I meant when I said design's all subjective.

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