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post #14221 of 16656
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Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

I think for most people, turning to a Johnson (or any other repro maker) for a fashion jacket isn't going to turn out very well. There's nobody to provide the taste/design required, much less spec-ing. If you want reprowear type stuff it's a good option, but most posters here are not capable of producing something good on their own.

I would agree about Johnson.  I think that to work with him, unless there is already a body that fits you well, that you could end up with a few issues before getting things right.  That said, he has worked with a lot of fashion companies, and so he does have those patterns, and can probably build you something off of those (though he is probably not allowed to use those patterns exactly.  Johnson's is not a "repro" nor a "motorcycle" jacket maker, though.  He really is a manufacturer.

 

A company like Aero, like I said, is completely different.  It really is a fashion company - one focused on historical jackets.  The good thing about this is that they have something for pretty much any fit you want, since we've gone through every fit in the past 100 years or so.  1930s jackets are as slim as pretty much any fashion jacket found in 2015, and 1960s were not dissimilar.  On  the other hand, there are plenty of other bodies that are a lot roomier.  You can pretty easily put together something that could have been made by Junya, or Margiela, or Dior, based on your leather choices (in fact, the lighter leathers are less expensive),  the trims you choose, etc...

 

There are, of course, brands that focus solely on repros, and of course, with those, you get what was advertised.

post #14222 of 16656
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Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

I think for most people, turning to a Johnson (or any other repro maker) for a fashion jacket isn't going to turn out very well. There's nobody to provide the taste/design required, much less spec-ing. If you want reprowear type stuff it's a good option, but most posters here are not capable of producing something good on their own.

I agree in principal although people sell Johnson short at times and underestimate their ability to put together patterns, as well as draw on experience that they have doing work for fashion houses. On the other hand, their core business is more geared toward moto / police jackets. I would say if you wanted them to do a specific type of fashion jacket, finding out if they did a specific design in the past would give you a pretty good idea if you wanted to commission them for that particular design.
post #14223 of 16656
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

As important as physical comfort is psychological comfort.  I take my clothing through a beating, and not only that, but I feel constricted if I feel like I can break my clothes.  So for me, it's either heavy denim and heavier leathers, or abrasion resistant tech fabrics that have a ridiculous amount of stretch in them so I can literally do a fly jump kick and have room to stretch.  Or things made from military tents that are reinforced at all the stress points with additonal material.  Or materials that are made to be grabbed and pulled with all the strength a 280 lb man (about the biggest guy I've sparred with) who is trying to separate your arm from your shoulder.   I hear about these guys who squat down, and split the seam of their pants.  To me, the very fact that the pants could split that way makes me uncomfortable wearing them. Even on non-jeans, I asked for a felled seam on the seat and crotch.  

tldr; I dunno - you just get used to it, and after that, anything light (for me, anything under 3.5 ounces or so) feels uncomfortably flimsy.

I have actually had people tell me that heavy jacket made their shoulders sore. Meanwhile they have a 10 pound back pack hanging off of one shoulder... to me there is nothing like the feel of a really heavy leather jacket. I'm contemplating a Langlitz heavy cow cafe racer, which would come in around 1.5 or 1.6 mm and make me bullet proof. (ok, not literally)
post #14224 of 16656
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Originally Posted by ChrisGold View Post


I have actually had people tell me that heavy jacket made their shoulders sore. Meanwhile they have a 10 pound back pack hanging off of one shoulder... to me there is nothing like the feel of a really heavy leather jacket. I'm contemplating a Langlitz heavy cow cafe racer, which would come in around 1.5 or 1.6 mm and make me bullet proof. (ok, not literally)

1.6" is awesome.  And if you put in kevlar armor, you are both bullet resistant (a headshot will still take you out) and abrasion and have some protection against things like dog bites.  I know guys who work in some rougher clubs who wear these.  They are well done, and the armor is lighter weight, so it just looks like they are wearing a nice leather jacket, but they come in useful if some fool decides it's the wild west and that fighting with glass is acceptable, or something similarly stupid.  Also useful against dog bites,  Yes, you will be bruised as hell, but you do prevent your arm from being ripped off, and if you are in any situation where someone might sick a dog on you, you should probably be carrying something that can take care of that problem anyway.

post #14225 of 16656
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Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

I think for most people, turning to a Johnson (or any other repro maker) for a fashion jacket isn't going to turn out very well. There's nobody to provide the taste/design required, much less spec-ing. If you want reprowear type stuff it's a good option, but most posters here are not capable of producing something good on their own.
Their regular cafe racer fits me pretty good, and they have two cowhides RTW, one that is significantly softer than the other (I think Alan called it "naked"). The treated cowhide was only slightly thicker but ridiculously stiff. It would get those sweet arm ripples but man it'll take forever to get there.

As far as cafe racer styles go - what companies have you seen than makes a more fashion-y one?
post #14226 of 16656
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post


awesome, i really dig that jacket, may ditch my Toj tongue.gif for it

 

Hey sinnedk,

 

You are certainly knowledgeable and so I followed your advice 1.5 years ago...

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/71625/leather-jackets-post-pictures-of-the-best-youve-seen-owned/9050_50#post_6714507

 

I'm not saying going the ToJ route was anyone's fault. It's just funny how things turn out. I wholeheartedly recommend ditching ToJ for Aero.

post #14227 of 16656
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Originally Posted by ktown View Post

Hey sinnedk,

You are certainly knowledgeable and so I followed your advice 1.5 years ago...

http://www.styleforum.net/t/71625/leather-jackets-post-pictures-of-the-best-youve-seen-owned/9050_50#post_6714507

I'm not saying going the ToJ route was anyone's fault. It's just funny how things turn out. I wholeheartedly recommend ditching ToJ for Aero.

Hey man, there was no way to know things would go down that way. At the time of that post all was ok, orders were just taking long.
post #14228 of 16656
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post


Hey man, there was no way to know things would go down that way. At the time of that post all was ok, orders were just taking long.


As I said, there are no hard feelings on my end. I made a choice on my own and I understand your intentions were completely well-meaning.

post #14229 of 16656
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Originally Posted by ktown View Post


As I said, there are no hard feelings on my end. I made a choice on my own and I understand your intentions were completely well-meaning.

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post #14230 of 16656
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Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

I think for most people, turning to a Johnson (or any other repro maker) for a fashion jacket isn't going to turn out very well. There's nobody to provide the taste/design required, much less spec-ing. If you want reprowear type stuff it's a good option, but most posters here are not capable of producing something good on their own.
If the point of going custom is getting a specific jacket in the specs that you want, then this should make sense, right? You're not paying Johnson to be your designer, because you already know what you want. Why would the manufacturer tell the designer what they want? It has nothing to do with "reprowear" or the perceived aesthetic of the business owner - you provide them with design details, and they'll produce a jacket faithful to the order. The process isn't discussed in much detail on the forums, but in my experience there were at least three key stages where I confirmed that the company was producing my jacket the way I wanted. If the customer gets what they ordered, and is satisfied with it, then it doesn't matter whether it attracts the envy of other posters.
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

I would agree about Johnson.  I think that to work with him, unless there is already a body that fits you well, that you could end up with a few issues before getting things right.  That said, he has worked with a lot of fashion companies, and so he does have those patterns, and can probably build you something off of those (though he is probably not allowed to use those patterns exactly.  Johnson's is not a "repro" nor a "motorcycle" jacket maker, though.  He really is a manufacturer.
It's only natural that the process allows for some bumps along the way- there isn't a perfect template for translating all of the customer's desires to the patternmakers before accepting the project. I think that's why the fit jacket, and fabric prototype (a step in the process that we don't bring up very often) are very important steps in the process. The customer has every opportunity to make sure that they're satisfied.
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This is pics of some of the leather jackets I have found in the past year. there is 30 pics. YOU BEEN WARNED.
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A lot of interesting historical pieces there.  Have you dated them all?

post #14233 of 16656
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Originally Posted by omgcookielol View Post

If the point of going custom is getting a specific jacket in the specs that you want, then this should make sense, right? You're not paying Johnson to be your designer, because you already know what you want. Why would the manufacturer tell the designer what they want? It has nothing to do with "reprowear" or the perceived aesthetic of the business owner - you provide them with design details, and they'll produce a jacket faithful to the order. The process isn't discussed in much detail on the forums, but in my experience there were at least three key stages where I confirmed that the company was producing my jacket the way I wanted. If the customer gets what they ordered, and is satisfied with it, then it doesn't matter whether it attracts the envy of other posters.
It's only natural that the process allows for some bumps along the way- there isn't a perfect template for translating all of the customer's desires to the patternmakers before accepting the project. I think that's why the fit jacket, and fabric prototype (a step in the process that we don't bring up very often) are very important steps in the process. The customer has every opportunity to make sure that they're satisfied.

People need designers to fix their often times ill-conceived ideas. If you're copying an existing jacket using existing patterns, that's not designining something. Most people on this forum probably couldn't/shouldn't do more than compare measurements to existing measurements and try to reverse engineer something.
post #14234 of 16656
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Originally Posted by HeavenResign View Post

Ktown would you mind taking a fit pic with the sleeves and jacket zipped up. Thinking about this as an alternative to the Vanson sf collab that never came to fruition

Beautiful jacket though


 Here you go. I will wear it 99% of the time open and won't zip it up.

 

post #14235 of 16656
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Originally Posted by ktown View Post


 Here you go. I will wear it 99% of the time open and won't zip it up.

Thurston nailed it for you.
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