Yes, 654 is a much lighter leather, but still fairly sturdy stuff.
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Leather Jackets: Post Pictures of the Best You've Seen/Owned? - Page 904post #13546 of 172094/12/15 at 6:51ampost #13547 of 172094/12/15 at 7:28ampost #13548 of 172094/12/15 at 7:42ampost #13549 of 172094/12/15 at 8:29amQuote:
641 is a smaller, trimmer fit than the 141, and historically more accurate for a cafe racer. Scott's naked cowhide is soft, with a matte finish. The steerhide is slightly stiffer with a shine to the leather. The horsehide is even stiffer with a shine also. The lightweight cowhide on the 654 is lighter than all of them and has a waxy finish that I think looks great in person. From what you're describing as a casual grab and go jacket that might be your best bet. The others will have either a quilted lining or a zip out lining and the leather will be heavier, motorcycle protection grade.
I'm not disparaging Schott when I say that their leather is decent. It's quite good at the price point, and especially since you can often find Schott marked down through one of their many retailers.post #13550 of 172094/12/15 at 8:44amQuote:Originally Posted by Fuuma
Yeah, there are some surprising durability issues with some brands/itemsthat should be highlighted but the rest is pretty much obvious and comes from different design approaches and goals. I have a pair of grey zip CCP tornadoes that are pretty much indestructible while the much better constructed Massaro suede zip boots I also love to wear are rather delicate. This is obvious to anyone who glances at both item and isn't a complete fucktard (i.e shape and material suggest robustness for the CCP and dainty elegance for the Massaro).
This. Sometimes, just the wrong leather is chosen for the item, or the leather matched with thread that is too hard, or the treatment is overly aggressive, etc... For example, Common Projects and Pierre Hardy have both used very supple, but overly thin, and inexplicably unlined, sueded, in some of their footwear. It was leather that would have been lightweight for gloves, much less for casual shoes (sneakers and chukkas, respectively). Light wear results in a tear along the seam on the first, and the second, a microtear in the leather at the vamp.
I've seen leather jackets from Niccolo Berrini Ceschi that torn at the armpit from regular wear.
imo, there should be a minimum level of durability in an item, unless that item was meant to disintegrate, literally. But those items are far and few in between.post #13551 of 172094/13/15 at 12:56pmpost #13552 of 172094/13/15 at 1:21pmpost #13553 of 172094/13/15 at 2:20pmpost #13554 of 172094/13/15 at 9:07pmpost #13555 of 172094/15/15 at 11:11ampost #13556 of 172094/16/15 at 10:37ampost #13557 of 172094/16/15 at 6:03pm
I don't love the "unstructured" collar but I do like both of these designs, especially the cross-zip. Just shows that a cross-zip doesn't have to include a lot of adornment, but I also own two Langlitz Cascades so I'm sort of vested in the simple cross zip design.post #13558 of 172094/16/15 at 7:37pmpost #13559 of 172094/16/15 at 7:48pmpost #13560 of 172094/16/15 at 8:02pmQuote:Originally Posted by Kid Nickels
The no collar/cropped bottom style of that jacket does not flatter your @ChrisGold build IMO. I really think a style with collar would balance your silhouette… I think that's it (looks bottom heavy?), but either way it appears a bit off to me. Not being a dick… just my two cents.
I get what you're saying and agree basically, but it's not a fashion jacket, it's motorcycle only for me, so when you sit on a bike the front drops down below your belt but not too low to push the jacket up into your neck. Form follows function in this case. Most other leather jackets I wear casually are collared or are straight zip cafe racer designs. Meant it as a comparison to the jacket above, as the Cascade is one of the early simple cross zip designs, unchanged since 1947. I like how the Guidi above lets the asymmetrical design and leather do the talking without too many busy zips.
Edit: for casual wear I'd never wear cropped as I have long legs / shorter torso which looks really out of balance. That may be what you're seeing also.
Edited by ChrisGold - 4/16/15 at 8:19pm
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