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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post


The only time I've seen a non-precise stitch or cut was in cheaply made stuff in Latin America. Not even the stuff that's imported here, but the stuff that's made and sold domestically there. I'm not questioning whether your Aero (or the Aero you handled) has an imprecise cut or stitch. I'm just saying it's so incredibly rare for garments in the US to have these qualities -- let alone sold through a high-end line -- that I can't even fathom it.

 

evidently you haven't had the misfortune of examining the work of mr. saberi.

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I have a 30-32 inch waist. Would a leather jacket with a 40 inch waist be too large? I assume it would be, but then again I've never owned a good leather jacket. 

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Originally Posted by Adroit View Post

Given that Horween offers many different hides, and there are several different Italian tanneries, all of which offer different hides, any comparison is necessarily a generalization.  That said, Horween's standard FQHH is very rigid and stiff -- it wears like a suit of armor.  Moreover, in my experience, Horween FQHH is often rather flat and lacking in grain/character.  In contrast, the Italian horsehides I have seen are considerably less rigid, more pliable, and have more grain/character.  Of course, everything is relative and, as MP noted above, Lamb is much more pliable than Italian HH. 

If you are riding a motorcycle and need a bullet proof jacket that can protect you during a fall, Horween FQHH is a good option.  If you do not need this level of durability/protection, I personally find Horween's FQHH unwearable -- the leather wears you and overly constricts your movements -- it is work to wear (as opposed to work wear).  Some say that, over time. Horween FQHH breaks down and becomes much more pliable.  Some say any meaningful change in pliability takes many years of regular wear.

I agree with your assessment, although I think the difficulty of breaking in the FQHH is over stated sometimes, but the reality is that stiff is in the eye of the beholder. Totally agree that the FQHH starts as being pretty "flat", although with break in a very nice grain comes though. Similar to the cowhide as produced by Vanson, which is totally flat, but as the jacket starts to soften the leather's grain shows itself more and more. The tumbled HH from Horween, which is basically FQHH that has been broken in at the tannery. If you compare it to the Italian horsehides it's fairly similar in appearance but with the same weight as the regular FQHH. IMO, this gives you three nice choices in HH, depending on what you prefer in terms of thickness and grain. (Choices from Aero, and of course they also have the Jerky Horsehide)
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Originally Posted by NeedForTweed123 View Post

I have a 30-32 inch waist. Would a leather jacket with a 40 inch waist be too large? I assume it would be, but then again I've never owned a good leather jacket. 

Sounds much too big, as I have a 36 inch waist and most of my jackets have a 40 inch waist.
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Originally Posted by skeen7908 View Post

Whats the deal with the taped seams in ccp stuff?

Is that unique to his clothes? A high level trchnique? Or a gimmick?

It is deliberately unfinished, and in suits, for example, deliberately more fragile and prone to destruction and decay than in a classical jacket, which is "perfect". It's the opposite of "quality". We did and interview with Karlo Steel where that is discussed. Look it up.
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Originally Posted by Adroit View Post

Given that Horween offers many different hides, and there are several different Italian tanneries, all of which offer different hides, any comparison is necessarily a generalization.  That said, Horween's standard FQHH is very rigid and stiff -- it wears like a suit of armor.  Moreover, in my experience, Horween FQHH is often rather flat and lacking in grain/character.  In contrast, the Italian horsehides I have seen are considerably less rigid, more pliable, and have more grain/character.  Of course, everything is relative and, as MP noted above, Lamb is much more pliable than Italian HH. 

If you are riding a motorcycle and need a bullet proof jacket that can protect you during a fall, Horween FQHH is a good option.  If you do not need this level of durability/protection, I personally find Horween's FQHH unwearable -- the leather wears you and overly constricts your movements -- it is work to wear (as opposed to work wear).  Some say that, over time. Horween FQHH breaks down and becomes much more pliable.  Some say any meaningful change in pliability takes many years of regular wear.

appreciate your feedback
post #12232 of 16648
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Originally Posted by NeedForTweed123 View Post

I have a 30-32 inch waist. Would a leather jacket with a 40 inch waist be too large? I assume it would be, but then again I've never owned a good leather jacket. 

It depends on the intended look and model.
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

It depends on the intended look and model.

It's a cafe racer.
post #12234 of 16648
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Originally Posted by Adroit View Post
 

 

Given that Horween offers many different hides, and there are several different Italian tanneries, all of which offer different hides, any comparison is necessarily a generalization.  That said, Horween's standard FQHH is very rigid and stiff -- it wears like a suit of armor.  Moreover, in my experience, Horween FQHH is often rather flat and lacking in grain/character.  In contrast, the Italian horsehides I have seen are considerably less rigid, more pliable, and have more grain/character.  Of course, everything is relative and, as MP noted above, Lamb is much more pliable than Italian HH. 

 

If you are riding a motorcycle and need a bullet proof jacket that can protect you during a fall, Horween FQHH is a good option.  If you do not need this level of durability/protection, I personally find Horween's FQHH unwearable -- the leather wears you and overly constricts your movements -- it is work to wear (as opposed to work wear).  Some say that, over time. Horween FQHH breaks down and becomes much more pliable.  Some say any meaningful change in pliability takes many years of regular wear.

 

 

*shrug* 

 

Below is my Aero FQHH Highwayman. If that leather had any more character, it'd be played by Robert Downey Jr.

 

And Chrisgold is correct, the leather is only stiff for a few months. Do you mind providing some examples of leather that you consider to be interesting? 

 

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Originally Posted by LaymanX View Post


*shrug* 

Below is my Aero FQHH Highwayman. If that leather had any more character, it'd be played by Robert Downey Jr.

And Chrisgold is correct, the leather is only stiff for a few months. Do you mind providing some examples of leather that you consider to be interesting? 

Layman that's a fantastic looking jacket... nothing like a photo to make your point.
post #12236 of 16648
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Layman that's a fantastic looking jacket... nothing like a photo to make your point.

 

Thanks. Too bad it's already sold. :(

 

IMO, it's similar to the difference between shell cordovan versus normal calf skin. Sure it's more pricey and heavy, but you get extraordinary depth of color and can achieve a great patina over time with FQHH. 

 

Of course, it's totally different than CCP Kangaroo leather which is awesome as well, but in a totally different way. 

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Yeah Hermes is fucking insane. Watched a documentary where they talked about that
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Edited by dieworkwear - 10/18/14 at 7:01pm
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Thanks bud, but i still don't see how ccp would lose out on materials. Mostly i read hermes has the highest grade of materials.
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