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Originally Posted by ceoceo View Post

Here to confirm nothing beats ToJ at its price range inlove.gif

I beg to differ.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

I beg to differ.

C'mon man... I mean, for a specific style, at a decent price, he has it dialed in. I hate fanboyism more than just about anyone, but let's give credit where it is due.
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My jacket, which is MTO, with arguably better leather, made in the US, without a hilariously long wait time, was less than a TOJ.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

My jacket, which is MTO, with arguably better leather, made in the US, without a hilariously long wait time, was less than a TOJ.

which TOJs have you owned, and where was your custom order from?
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Originally Posted by e0d9n0b5 View Post

which TOJs have you owned, and where was your custom order from?

I have a friend with 2 ToJs that I see regularly. My custom order is from Johnson Leathers in San Francisco.
post #10911 of 16909
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

My jacket, which is MTO, with arguably better leather, made in the US, without a hilariously long wait time, was less than a TOJ.

Sure. But the silhouette is markedly different. I think that what Drew brings to the table is good taste levels. Most people make a complete hash of mto/MTM/bespoke without proper guidance and level of experience. What Drew has done is to narrow choices down so that pretty much anyone can get a good looking jacket that is somewhat customized, purely online. This is something that even time tested outfits have had trouble doing, and is to be commended.
post #10912 of 16909
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Does anyone still want to do that Junya Watanabe inspired "slim Japanese" Vanson rider with @Thurston Bros? I'd be in for sure, and am willing to facilitate.

Cheers,

Fok.


As long as there's a solid consensus on a good base design, this isn't a problem.  After we have a solid base design, we can make standard changes to individual orders (pocket placements, types of zippers, whatnot)...  I do think that we should use a quality leather if we're going to do this...the jackets will be more difficult to break-in, but they will look a lot better over the long-haul! 

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Originally Posted by Thurston Bros View Post


As long as there's a solid consensus on a good base design, this isn't a problem.  After we have a solid base design, we can make standard changes to individual orders (pocket placements, types of zippers, whatnot)...  I do think that we should use a quality leather if we're going to do this...the jackets will be more difficult to break-in, but they will look a lot better over the long-haul! 

I agree on the leather, but I think that comp weight is too much. What do you think about something in the 2.5 ounce weight? Any idea what the Junya leather was?
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Sure. But the silhouette is markedly different. I think that what Drew brings to the table is good taste levels. Most people make a complete hash of mto/MTM/bespoke without proper guidance and level of experience. What Drew has done is to narrow choices down so that pretty much anyone can get a good looking jacket that is somewhat customized, purely online. This is something that even time tested outfits have had trouble doing, and is to be commended.

This may all be true and commendable, but the original comment was "there's nothing better than TOJ for the money". I still beg to differ, on levels of craftsmanship, lead time, options, etc. TOJ makes a nice product but the nut swinging is ridiculous.
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judging by the photos ive seen of your jacket. i doubt that Moo. the leather on your jacket is shiny and cheap looking, which isnt something i could get past, regardless of how the leather feels in real life. drew offers so many different hides, the best being his black lamb, there's no way you could even make a statement like that. fit, leather quality, craftmanship, nothings topping drew's operation at that price. all fanboyism and your personal vendetta, aside.
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Oh shit, I just realized that live near Johnson leathers and have passed by it.  It's got that biker aesthetic.  IMO, the fit and finish on a TOJ is markedly different.  

 

If it's cheaper than a TOJ, then I question the quality of it, just because, well, you know, having a storefront, rent and employees isn't cheap in San Francisco.  

post #10917 of 16909
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Originally Posted by clark kent View Post

judging by the photos ive seen of your jacket. i doubt that Moo. the leather on your jacket is shiny and cheap looking, which isnt something i could get past, regardless of how the leather feels in real life. drew offers so many different hides, the best being his black lamb, there's no way you could even make a statement like that. fit, leather quality, craftmanship, nothings topping drew's operation at that price. all fanboyism and your personal vendetta, aside.

I disagree about the look - it's overdyed Horween Chromexcel leather. Nothing cheap or shiny about it. I wonder where TOJ obtains their hides. Do you know how many hides JL offers? Do you have any idea of the craftsmanship? You're making literally the opposite statement as I am, all the while telling me there is no way I can make a statement like that. Lulz. You seem to be the exact person that I envision when I think of TOJ fanboy/diehard/etc.
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Originally Posted by Dbear View Post

Oh shit, I just realized that live near Johnson leathers and have passed by it.  It's got that biker aesthetic.  IMO, the fit and finish on a TOJ is markedly different.  

If it's cheaper than a TOJ, then I question the quality of it, just because, well, you know, having a storefront, rent and employees isn't cheap in San Francisco.  

When I say cheaper, I don't mean by hundreds of dollars. His operation is like an ant hill - lots going on below the surface of the storefront. He has some very large contracts which lets him keep his MTO prices way down.
post #10918 of 16909
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Originally Posted by clark kent View Post

judging by the photos ive seen of your jacket. i doubt that Moo. the leather on your jacket is shiny and cheap looking, which isnt something i could get past, regardless of how the leather feels in real life. drew offers so many different hides, the best being his black lamb, there's no way you could even make a statement like that. fit, leather quality, craftmanship, nothings topping drew's operation at that price. all fanboyism and your personal vendetta, aside.

that shiny one was his custom leather?

ugly as fuck imo, sorry moo.

even if the craftsmanship is 100x better than toj, i'd still take my toj over that thing. the proportions, detailing, and basically the entire look of the jacket are just not my thing. i'm glad you like it though, and it does look like its very well made.

my toj is easily as nice as my ~$3500 ripvanwinkle leather
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If the Vanson Junya thing goes through, I would prefer something less intense weight wise. Preferably similar to the original or lighter.
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Horses for courses. I don't take offense if you don't like how my jacket looks. If it's not your thing, it's not your thing. But the argument originally was "is TOJ the best bang for your buck?" My answer is that it's not the only game in town.
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