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freshcutgrass 
Have you tried the 1998 cab-merlot from Henry of Pelham? You'd be the first person I've ever heard of to call it plonk. I really had a little laugh there...I've never heard a person who professes to be a wine lover, write off an entire wine region like that (wait...I think you were actually writing off an entire country). Must be that anonymous internet message board factor eh? he he Sure you aren't being a tad over dramatic? Somebody thinks there are some drinkable locally produced reds, and suddenly they are responsible for the downfall of the civilized world? Com'on. I'm a short subway ride from one of the greatest booze selections in the world (Summerhill)...and when I get there, patriotism has nothing to do with it.
If someone were maintaining there were "some drinkable locally produced reds" I wouldn't argue. Drinkable =! world class.
Table de vin, or table wine, while fine to drink, is not to be confused with cellarable red wines or wines to coo over while touring wineries. And I'll tell you, the stuff most of the wineries are passing off as their premium stuff, is often inferior to the table wine. However, that's not what some folks are making out. I stand by my claim, the vast bulk of the reds made in the VQA is plonk. And I have not "written off an entire wine region." I keep pointing out some wine there is world class (the ice and late harvests) and some is not bad (the Rieslings and, to a lesser extent, the chards). That fact, of course, is being ignored because I will not sweepingly endorse the entire efforts of the VQA. A winery or two, that has made a decent vintage or two, does not mean you have a whole region putting out world class reds. I just can't understand, unless framed by rabid nationalism, why so many Ontarioans have to defend their reds as world class, when they simply are not. I would be proud of the world class wines that
are made there and leave it at that. Here's some world class wines from Ontario I pulled from my cellar as examples:

(All purchased at the wineries, UCC old chum.) Might the reds, one day, improve to the point of world class? I don't know. I'm not an expert on that, but have read experts contemplate on everything from the terrior to over production. Time will tell. In the meantime, enjoy the good stuff there and stop trying to pass off the plonk as wines worthy of note.