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post #16 of 22
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Sorry all you Canadians, VQA just ain't all that. There are plenty of deluded people like you to drink their plonk.


Have you tried the 1998 cab-merlot from Henry of Pelham? You'd be the first person I've ever heard of to call it plonk.

I really had a little laugh there...I've never heard a person who professes to be a wine lover, write off an entire wine region like that (wait...I think you were actually writing off an entire country). Must be that anonymous internet message board factor eh? he he



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Your rabid nationalism is showing; reminds me of Dubya's "for us or against us" mentality.

Sure you aren't being a tad over dramatic? Somebody thinks there are some drinkable locally produced reds, and suddenly they are responsible for the downfall of the civilized world? Com'on. I'm a short subway ride from one of the greatest booze selections in the world (Summerhill)...and when I get there, patriotism has nothing to do with it.
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by freshcutgrass View Post
Have you tried the 1998 cab-merlot from Henry of Pelham? You'd be the first person I've ever heard of to call it plonk. I really had a little laugh there...I've never heard a person who professes to be a wine lover, write off an entire wine region like that (wait...I think you were actually writing off an entire country). Must be that anonymous internet message board factor eh? he he Sure you aren't being a tad over dramatic? Somebody thinks there are some drinkable locally produced reds, and suddenly they are responsible for the downfall of the civilized world? Com'on. I'm a short subway ride from one of the greatest booze selections in the world (Summerhill)...and when I get there, patriotism has nothing to do with it.
If someone were maintaining there were "some drinkable locally produced reds" I wouldn't argue. Drinkable =! world class. Table de vin, or table wine, while fine to drink, is not to be confused with cellarable red wines or wines to coo over while touring wineries. And I'll tell you, the stuff most of the wineries are passing off as their premium stuff, is often inferior to the table wine. However, that's not what some folks are making out. I stand by my claim, the vast bulk of the reds made in the VQA is plonk. And I have not "written off an entire wine region." I keep pointing out some wine there is world class (the ice and late harvests) and some is not bad (the Rieslings and, to a lesser extent, the chards). That fact, of course, is being ignored because I will not sweepingly endorse the entire efforts of the VQA. A winery or two, that has made a decent vintage or two, does not mean you have a whole region putting out world class reds. I just can't understand, unless framed by rabid nationalism, why so many Ontarioans have to defend their reds as world class, when they simply are not. I would be proud of the world class wines that are made there and leave it at that. Here's some world class wines from Ontario I pulled from my cellar as examples: (All purchased at the wineries, UCC old chum.) Might the reds, one day, improve to the point of world class? I don't know. I'm not an expert on that, but have read experts contemplate on everything from the terrior to over production. Time will tell. In the meantime, enjoy the good stuff there and stop trying to pass off the plonk as wines worthy of note.
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by tattersall View Post
A second recommendation for Cave Spring in Jordan Village. Their reserve Reisling and reserve Gewurztraminer are very good. I would avoid most reds. The Inn on the Twenty (also in Jordan Village) is worth checking out for a nice meal in pleasant surroundings.

Agreed about the Inn and the Riesling. I haven't tried their Gewürztraminer but will check it out next chance I get.
post #19 of 22
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I just can't understand, unless framed by rabid nationalism, why so many Ontarioans have to defend their reds as world class, when they simply are not.

Who are you talking about???

I can't see a single post here where anybody has even hinted at such things. You seem to be feverishly fighting a one-sided battle with a ghost. Sounds like somebody is harboring a major chip?

The guy makes a thread about a nice day out with his dad in Niagara, considering taking in a winery tour.

Your response...."I hope you are not a wine lover. You will be deeply disappointed."

ha ha ha

Oh....so you've heard the area makes some good ice wines...big secret.

Of all the genres of snobs there are, why is it the wine snob is the most grating on the nerves?
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by freshcutgrass View Post
Who are you talking about???

I can't see a single post here where anybody has even hinted at such things. You seem to be feverishly fighting a one-sided battle with a ghost. Sounds like somebody is harboring a major chip?

Have you really read this thread? And what chip might I be harboring? I'm truly mystified there.

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Oh....so you've heard the area makes some good ice wines...big secret.

Heard? Yeah, you have yet to read my posts. Or else you would have noticed I've done more than "heard."
post #21 of 22
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post #22 of 22
I was very surprised with the quality of the wine, the scenery, the wineries, etc. Had a great time last Sunday. Nice day. tastings at Stratus, Tawse, Hidden Bench and Malivoire. All excellent. Tawse's Pinot and merlot were both excellent with outstanding potential. Can't wait for Lenko and Clos de Jordanne. Both world class I'm told...very limited production.
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