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post #376 of 516
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That's a rather sweeping generalization. Lot of crummy tailors in Korea's tourist ghettos and just off post - even a few of 'em on post too. And there are a few gems. Of course some miserable tailoring happens in the States. That being said, both ho1joon and koreaderivative have found two very good ones in Seoul that aren't anywhere near a base - off the foreigner radar, so to speak. FalconXtreme (Air Force?), I'd recommend finding a Korean who can assist you with the tailors used by both ho1joon and koreaderivative. You may be able to save yourself a bit of money if you have sofa status, and I think you do, by importing the fabric directly. That being said, the EU - Korea FTA has been implemented, so Italian, French and UK material may now be competitively priced. A year in Korea is a great opportunity, and it would be a waste of it to get American-tailored suits during that period.

Yup I'm an Air Force Officer, going to Osan so i'll be close to Seoul. What is sofa status? Where would i go to buy fabric to import directly? Any idea what the actual cost savings might be going this route?
post #377 of 516

Sucks Sartoria Min is closing. He is a really nice guy. I hope he will be setting up shop somewhere close by. 

post #378 of 516
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Originally Posted by dgsdm View Post

Can someone give me some advice on where I can get a versatile pair of shoes that can be worn for clubbing/night out etc. for around 100,000W? I kind of want something similar to this: http://www.dasmann.co.kr/shop/detail.php?pno=4079016D940210B4AE9AE7D41C4A2065&cno1=1038&rURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dasmann.co.kr%2F

 

Basically I'm looking for something affordable (I'm 22) and wouldn't mind too much if it got dirty. I'm open too all suggestions!

 

Also, I'm in the market for a suit but I'm not sure if I should get it off the rack/dept. store or bespoke. I'm looking to spend somewhere around 500-600,000W and this will be my first suit. Is getting a bespoke suit a lot better than a pre-constructed one? I've been reading from: http://www.gq.com/style/style-manual/201204/suits-guide-tailoring-fit#slide=1 and a lot of posts from styleforum so I have a general idea of what a proper suit should look like.

 

Another question I have is.. does anyone have any experience with certain Korean brands like Ziozia, Stco, etc or like Zara? Is it a terrible idea to buy suits from these places? For me I can't really tell if fabric quality or construction is poor or not.

 

How much can I find a decent suit for at a dept store when there's a sale? For me, off the rack clothes seem to fit me well in Korea (I'm 178cm and 135lbs). Because I'm not very knowledgeable about suits in general I'm not sure if it's worth the time and trouble for a bespoke suit. However, sometime in the future I would definitely like to get a bespoke suit at SEGI or some other places mentioned in this thread when I have the financial means.

 

I know these are a lot of questions but if someone could give me some guidance here I will be forever grateful!


Hey Dgsdm,

 

I hope you are enjoying your time in Korea!

 

I think the golden rule for shoes is NEVER EVER BUY SUPER CHEAP DRESS SHOES no matter if its for partying, work, etc. Shoes are just one of those things you just have to suck up and splurge a bit. Buying cheap shoes in Korea is a guaranteed regret. Getting 100,000KRW pair of shoes will kill your feet, and wont  last but a couple of months. And they make you look tacky.

 

Check out http://alexshoes.co.kr/. The guy sells Herring shoes w/ free domestic shipping, and his prices are reasonable considering that he imports them from England. Also, they are good year constructed and very high quality, (I see no difference between them and Church's, loakes, even Sutor Mantellasis). At an average price of 370,000KRW it might be quite steep for your budget, but trust me, saving for a couple of months (or not going out to clubs and splurging 100,000KRW + for a couple of weeks), is MUCH cheaper in the long run than buying 4 pairs of 100,000KRW Korean constructed shoes in the span of 4 - 6 months, looking like an ajussi. Shoes are just one of those things that will last you decades if you treat them properly. The return on investment on shoes is un parallel to everything else. Also, cheap shoes RUIN great suits :). Beware of the 30% luxury tax. Every imported brand name in Korea is at least 30% more expensive. 

 

 

If you are going to spend 500,000 - 600,000 KRW, its your VERY FIRST suit, and Korean makers fit you well, just go off the rack. I believe right now, its sale season and Paul Smith will have their standard suits on sale for 650,000 - 750,000. Nina Ricci, which can be found in Sinsegae and Lotte Department Store, is OK too, and I believe they are having great sales (350,000 - 400,000KRW) right now. Bare in mind though, I like conservative, more tailored cuts, and am not really a trendy fellow...

 

If you are lucky, you can do the whole voucher thing. ie. go to a store outside, by the department store, that sells Shinsegae and/or Lotte gift certificates, buy it cash on hand @ 80% - 90% face value, and save another 10 - 20% on your suit purchase.

 

Zio Zia is OK, same with ZARA (a more conservative cut....ish). Some of my analysts wear it. The cut of Zio Zia is not my style though. Its the whole short jacket, narrow trousers thing thats all the rage right now.

 

Ultimately, just go with a suit that makes YOU feel good. If its your first suit, dont care too much about quality. Just learn from the experience. Personally, I dont think you should go for a SEGI suit just yet. Its not worth it until you start learning more about your own personal style and what cut makes you feel comfortable.


Edited by koreaderivative - 7/15/12 at 12:59am
post #379 of 516
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Originally Posted by FalconXtreme View Post


What is sofa status? Where would i go to buy fabric to import directly? Any idea what the actual cost savings might be going this route?

Status of Forces Agreement. Allows you to import items for personal use duty free.

You can look here in SF for cloth sellers. Also in SF dig into the threads a bit and you'll find the names of well known mills, such as Scabal.

Foreign milled fabric was taxed prohibitively. It may still be. You'll have to research that. Moreover, you'll have to find a local tailor who will allow you to substitute your material; it's not unknown, but it has to be discussed.

I would strongly encourage you to look beyond the Songtan tailors. Read what Ho1joon and koreaderivative have written, hop on the easy-to-use subway, and visit their tailors. I think 1.5m to 2m won is a bargain for what they've gotten.

Enjoy your stay in Korea and beware the soju kettles - they sneak up on ya.
Edited by curzon - 7/15/12 at 4:09am
post #380 of 516
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Status of Forces Agreement. Allows you to import items for personal use duty free.
You can look here in SF for cloth sellers. Also in SF dig into the threads a bit and you'll find the names of well known mills, such as Scabal.
Foreign milled fabric was taxed prohibitively. It may still be. You'll have to research that. Moreover, you'll have to find a local tailor who will allow you to substitute your material; it's not unknown, but it has to be discussed.
I would strongly encourage you to look beyond the Songtan tailors. Read what Ho1hoon and koreaderivative have written, hop on the easy-to-use subway, and visit their tailors. I think 1.5m to 2m won is a bargain for what they've gotten.
Enjoy your stay in Korea and beware the soju kettles - they sneak up on ya.


haha. soju kettles. horrible!

post #381 of 516
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haha. soju kettles. horrible!

Indeed.
post #382 of 516
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Originally Posted by koreaderivative View Post


Hey Dgsdm,

 

I hope you are enjoying your time in Korea!

 

I think the golden rule for shoes is NEVER EVER BUY SUPER CHEAP DRESS SHOES no matter if its for partying, work, etc. Shoes are just one of those things you just have to suck up and splurge a bit. Buying cheap shoes in Korea is a guaranteed regret. Getting 100,000KRW pair of shoes will kill your feet, and wont  last but a couple of months. And they make you look tacky.

 

Check out http://alexshoes.co.kr/. The guy sells Herring shoes w/ free domestic shipping, and his prices are reasonable considering that he imports them from England. Also, they are good year constructed and very high quality, (I see no difference between them and Church's, loakes, even Sutor Mantellasis). At an average price of 370,000KRW it might be quite steep for your budget, but trust me, saving for a couple of months (or not going out to clubs and splurging 100,000KRW + for a couple of weeks), is MUCH cheaper in the long run than buying 4 pairs of 100,000KRW Korean constructed shoes in the span of 4 - 6 months, looking like an ajussi. Shoes are just one of those things that will last you decades if you treat them properly. The return on investment on shoes is un parallel to everything else. Also, cheap shoes RUIN great suits :). Beware of the 30% luxury tax. Every imported brand name in Korea is at least 30% more expensive. 

 

 

If you are going to spend 500,000 - 600,000 KRW, its your VERY FIRST suit, and Korean makers fit you well, just go off the rack. I believe right now, its sale season and Paul Smith will have their standard suits on sale for 650,000 - 750,000. Nina Ricci, which can be found in Sinsegae and Lotte Department Store, is OK too, and I believe they are having great sales (350,000 - 400,000KRW) right now. Bare in mind though, I like conservative, more tailored cuts, and am not really a trendy fellow...

 

If you are lucky, you can do the whole voucher thing. ie. go to a store outside, by the department store, that sells Shinsegae and/or Lotte gift certificates, buy it cash on hand @ 80% - 90% face value, and save another 10 - 20% on your suit purchase.

 

Zio Zia is OK, same with ZARA (a more conservative cut....ish). Some of my analysts wear it. The cut of Zio Zia is not my style though. Its the whole short jacket, narrow trousers thing thats all the rage right now.

 

Ultimately, just go with a suit that makes YOU feel good. If its your first suit, dont care too much about quality. Just learn from the experience. Personally, I dont think you should go for a SEGI suit just yet. Its not worth it until you start learning more about your own personal style and what cut makes you feel comfortable.

 

Thank you so much for the detailed response!

 

I actually went out and already bought a cheap pair from ABC mart -___- (before I saw your post). I wore them last Saturday to the club and by the time I got back home it had streaks on them from people stepping on them. I figured buying a cheap shoe might be okay because it's dark and no one really sees your shoes and it's not that uncomfortable. However I agree 100% with your belief in investing in a nice pair of shoes. I'm getting a friend to bring over a pair of AE park avenue from the Nordstrom aniversary sale to wear with my suit. I'll look at the site you linked for future purchases though!

 

I think I will go check out the department stores and get my suit off the rack like you recommended. And I think for me I'd prefer a slim cut for my suit but I think I will go for something more conservative and will be interview appropriate as it is my first suit. Also if I do purchase a suit at the department store, does the department store do a good job making adjustments for the fit? So basically is it best if I  get the suit tailored at the department store or do I take it to a different place?


Edited by dgsdm - 7/16/12 at 7:53pm
post #383 of 516
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Originally Posted by dgsdm View Post

 

Thank you so much for the detailed response!

 

I actually went out and already bought a cheap pair from ABC mart -___- (before I saw your post). I wore them last Saturday to the club and by the time I got back home it had streaks on them from people stepping on them. I figured buying a cheap shoe might be okay because it's dark and no one really sees your shoes and it's not that uncomfortable. However I agree 100% with your belief in investing in a nice pair of shoes. I'm getting a friend to bring over a pair of AE park avenue from the Nordstrom aniversary sale to wear with my suit. I'll look at the site you linked for future purchases though!

 

I think I will go check out the department stores and get my suit off the rack like you recommended. And I think for me I'd prefer a slim cut for my suit but I think I will go for something more conservative and will be interview appropriate as it is my first suit. Also if I do purchase a suit at the department store, does the department store do a good job making adjustments for the fit? So basically is it best if I  get the suit tailored at the department store or do I take it to a different place?

 

If you buy a suit from a department store's men's section, they should do the alterations for free even if its on sale. In general, department store tailors alter suits better. I think its because they need reputable seamstresses to do work on their more expensive brands. Also, the guys are easier to deal with, and if they screw it up, they can always replace the suit.

post #384 of 516
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Originally Posted by koreaderivative View Post

 

If you buy a suit from a department store's men's section, they should do the alterations for free even if its on sale. In general, department store tailors alter suits better. I think its because they need reputable seamstresses to do work on their more expensive brands. Also, the guys are easier to deal with, and if they screw it up, they can always replace the suit.

 

Makes complete sense, exactly the answer I was looking for. Thank you!

post #385 of 516
Anyone looking for quality shoes in Seoul make want to give Unipair a visit. Carmina, Alden, Edward Green, Tricker's, etc. A very good selection, but sizes stocked is for local market, so if you're > than 11 you may be out of luck. Shoes are approx 30% more expensive than home markets; Alden cordovan at approx. $1000 and EG at approx. $1200. Also on hand is a large selection of Jalan Sriwijaya, an Indonesian maker of Goodyear welted shoes established by the Japanese - I think Rakuten or United Arrows. They run about $350, which puts them in the AE and Meermin range (outside Korea). The build is very good and I didn't see any flaws. The leather is inferior to AE. Crockett & Jones will be stocked from this September - presently only Shinsegae Dept Store carries C&J. Also stocked are Drake's and Breuer's neckties and Bresciani socks; the prices for the Drake's and Bresciani are very reasonable.

Opened 4 years ago, it's located in Kangnam (of course) and one of the owners, Kang Jae-Yong, who speaks English well, told me expansion to Hong-ik Uni area is planned. Parking in the neighborhood is very limited, so use the valet.

Website: http://unipairstore.com.
Edited by curzon - 7/17/12 at 2:45am
post #386 of 516
Craps I'm a size 12 sounds like i'll be hard pressed to find shoes once i get over there.

Thanks to everyone above for the advice. I think we should try to put together a SF-Korea meet...
post #387 of 516
Hi,
I am on my way to Seoul and intended to pay a visit to B&Tailor tomorrow but could not find in the thread nor on the blog the location and how to contact them. Do they speak english there?
Thanks for your help
post #388 of 516
Here is the website for B&Tailorshop: http://tailorshop.co.kr/intro.html
post #389 of 516
@falcon -
You needn't worry about that. You can easily order items from the states, the parcels ship at US domestic rates on USPS, and they are duty free. You don't want to buy imported items in Korea without first checking online stores in the states.
post #390 of 516
I'm not sure if this is the best thread, but I have a denim question.

I have a pair of apc NSs that have a small rip in the crotch. I want to fix it before it gets too big. I've seen a really nice pair of fixed jeans that were very subtly stitched up. I have enough fabric at the hem if it is needed.

I also have a pair of selvedge Albams that I want to taper along the selvedge line.

Are there any places in Seoul that I do great denim alterations?

I am going to Osaka sometime this year if there are particularly good places there. Id rather have it fixed in Seoul, but Osaka if need be.
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