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post #46 of 161
OK I know hot to get Kiton shirts in the US and understand how to reorder Anna shirts if you've already visited her, but how are artisan fan and the rest ordering her shirts without going there??
post #47 of 161
I can get Ambrosi trousers for $700, his cloth. Seems a bit discordant.
post #48 of 161
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Originally Posted by haganah View Post
OK I know hot to get Kiton shirts in the US and understand how to reorder Anna shirts if you've already visited her, but how are artisan fan and the rest ordering her shirts without going there??

Mebbe they use a mule?
post #49 of 161
Thanks for the report. Is that your sofa? I like that very much.
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Originally Posted by aportnoy View Post
Ian at World's Finest gives comprehensive measurements in his listings of Barba, Borrelli, Kiton, Finamore and Attolini shirts. With none priced higher than $199 and many created for the European market and quite slimly cut, I can't possibly see spending $700 on a shirt, bespoke or otherwise. The bespoke shirts that I get from Geneva run $135 for the ones using my cloth and $255-$275 for those using their cloth (Loro Piana cotton/linen is $400). So, as much as you may adore Anna's shirts, describing them as a value at $700 is, IMHO, somewhat out to luch. That doesn't mean they aren't great shrits, maybe the best on earth, but a value at $700, come on.
I ruined 2 shirts this month. One got a brown discoloration from a hotel iron. I spilled something on another. Shirts seem like one of the most disposable articles of clothing. Matt has said that his AM shirts should last 10 years. Am I just clumsy? If they did manage to last that long then I can see $700 but..
post #50 of 161
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Originally Posted by aportnoy View Post
So, as much as you may adore Anna's shirts, describing them as a value at $700 is, IMHO, somewhat out to luch. That doesn't mean they aren't great shrits, maybe the best on earth, but a value at $700, come on.

You know that's not what I said. I said they were a good value relative to high-end MTM shirts (like Kiton)--'relative' being the operative word.

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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
I thought AM was about E 350, which is more like $550.

Unfortunately, the price went up to 460 euros.

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Originally Posted by haganah View Post
OK I know hot to get Kiton shirts in the US and understand how to reorder Anna shirts if you've already visited her, but how are artisan fan and the rest ordering her shirts without going there??

She used to make RTW shirts of varying quality levels; I'm not sure if she still does. Iammatt or T4phage could tell you more about it.
post #51 of 161
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
You know that's not what I said. I said they were a good value relative to high-end MTM shirts (like Kiton)--'relative' being the operative word.

If one is paying full blown retail for OTR shirts from Kiton, I agree that weel executed bespoke, Anna or otherwise, is a good relative value just as it is for tailored clothing.
post #52 of 161
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
You know that's not what I said. I said they were a good value relative to high-end MTM shirts (like Kiton)--'relative' being the operative word. Unfortunately, the price went up to 460 euros. She used to make RTW shirts of varying quality levels; I'm not sure if she still does. Iammatt or T4phage could tell you more about it.
"You are probably right given the bespoke quality of her shirts and the quality fabrics. I hope to get to Naples one day." From that I got that he was getting the bespoke shirts without actually going there. If that's possible, can someone let me know how they did it? AF?
post #53 of 161
She used to make some RTW. Fabrics may be same or similar but the shirt is not the same as her bespoke.

She makes a trial shirt (forget what that's called) and then plays with it to get collar right, darts (she uses them) and taper (quite a bit). I don't see how that can be done without an in-person visit

350 euros was pushing it; I'm not a buyer any longer if the price escalted to 460 (unless of course dollar-euro makes a dramatic change).
post #54 of 161
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Originally Posted by horton View Post
She used to make some RTW. Fabrics may be same or similar but the shirt is not the same as her bespoke.

I only have three shirts from the RTW line and have seen the bespoke line shirts. Ian at World's Finest sells these RTW and they are quite good.
post #55 of 161
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Originally Posted by Artisan Fan View Post
I only have three shirts from the RTW line and have seen the bespoke line shirts. Ian at World's Finest sells these RTW and they are quite good.

Did Ian have the bespoke ones? Where did you buy yours?

I'm getting really confused here AF. I feel like these Anna shirts are really bad and it's like a joke to keep recommending them to people on SF or something.
post #56 of 161
Haganah, not sure why you aren't following. Mabye I didn't read something that would confuse, but there is an RTW AM line and the bespoke. Few people who regularly post on this forum have been able to get AM bespoke, including mafoo. Apparently Artisn Fran does not have any of the bespoke shirts, just the RTW available at Shopthefinest.com.

Both the RTW and bespoke AM lines are fine shirts. Obviously if you buy RTW, there is not as much handwork and the fit will not be bespoke. If you're willing to pay about $500 more, you can fly out to Italy and get measured. With those measurements on file, you can order more bespoke shirts in the comfort of your home.

Am I missing something?
post #57 of 161
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Originally Posted by haganah View Post
I'm getting really confused here AF. I feel like these Anna shirts are really bad and it's like a joke to keep recommending them to people on SF or something.

Why do you think Anna's shirts are "really bad"?

Many here consider them the very best or at least among the very best.
post #58 of 161
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Originally Posted by Artisan Fan View Post
Many here consider them the very best or at least among the very best.
The RTW line? I'm a bit surprised that she and her artisans make an RTW line, even if it is all machinemade, given the amount of work that entails. Does she license her name to a factory?
post #59 of 161
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The RTW line? I'm a bit surprised that she and her artisans make an RTW line, even if it is all machinemade, given the amount of work that entails. Does she license her name to a factory?

I think that was exactly what they were doing. I don't know about their more handmande RTW shirts, though.
post #60 of 161
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Am I missing something?

What do you think?




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