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post #1 of 83
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Lets see what the rest of the crowd thinks about this:

I had been dating this girl for the last 2 months, and things were going very well till about 2 weeks ago. It was her 25th birthday (i am 22), and I drove down from Richmond to Chapel Hill to celebrate her birthday with her and her friends. She loves to dance, so the plan was to get some dinner, head to a bar for a few drinks, and then head on over to a dance club in the Chapel Hill area.

Now, she wanted to eat Indian food that night, but I had only been to Chapel Hill once and I had no idea of what restaurant serves good Indian food in that area. Being Indian myself, I figured I could ask around and try to get some recommendations. Coincidentally, a couple of days before her birthday, I was sitting at an Indian restaurant in Richmond chatting up with the owner, and I asked him if he knew of any good places to eat in Chapel Hill. He tells me that a good friend of his owns a restaurant out there, and that he would call him for me and I can expect good food, good service, and a special discount at the end.

So, saturday night comes, we head over to the restaurant wit 3 of her friends. 2 more came late (a guy and a girl, they came as a couple), and ordered things on their own (since we had already ordered). First of all, they order a shit load of food for just 2 people. For 7 people, with 2 bottles of decent white wine, and a ton of food, the bill comes out to about $136 discount included. Since it was her birthday, we all decided she shouldn't pay and just to make the math easier for everyone else on the table, I figured I would get $150 ($25 each times 6) and then add a tip on my own on top of that, so that there is no problems with change and such.

Now, one of her friends just flat out tells me all he has is $20 cash, and I was like don't worry about it I will cover for you. 2 of her other friends pay $25 each. Now, the two that came late fucked up royally. The guy is like, I am paying a bit more just because, and ends up giving me $32. I was like, ok, thats fine. Although I didnt realize at the time, the girl doesn't pay at all. Either that, or the guy didn't pay for her. Now, I didn't really want to create a scene, so I was just like, whatever, and ended up paying $35 + $15 (additional tip).

Keep in mind though that I am the youngest one there, and a grad student to boot. Everyone else there on the table was working and was presumably making decent money. I didn't care at that point, because I didn't want to embarrass the girl's friends in front of everyone. Fast forward to the end of the night, when me and her are back at her place after having a really good time dancing, and she starts crying and tells me that she isn't really over someone and she isnt ready etc etc. So I basically just get up and leave.

We talked yesterday about what happened that night, and one of the reasons she gave was that she felt awkward that night and she felt guilty that she couldn't hang out with her friends. I was like, this is the same friends that didn't even pay for their own meals. Do you think I should have told her about her cheap friends (2 of them at least)? What they did isn't really classy at all, and I feel like she should know what her friends pulled off that night.

What would you do/have done? I am expecting a variety of responses, because different people act differently when it comes to money, food, and splitting bills.
post #2 of 83
Never split a bill with white people
post #3 of 83
Bringing up money in this context is bad form. No good can ever come of it.

Trying to alienate her from her friends is bad form. No good can ever come of it.

Sorry dude, that's what I think.
post #4 of 83
i know this is not really about money for you but people's and your girls attitude , social decencies that is bothering you

i say you are too good for these types of people. i dont know and cannot judge why they did not pay and such, but it is at least courtesy to acknowledge and thank you for paying the slack. i would have felt bad if i could not pay (first of all, i would make sure i would be able to before i go) but if i couldnt, i would offer you something later like i could treat you to coffee or a lunch sometime.
well that is not necessary. the point is, i think your girl is still a bit immature and growing. leave her and date someone else. she doesnt make sense. she hangs out with people who act in a certain inconsiderate way in social situations and birds of a feather flock together.

i dont know, also, did you ask them to join you, like did you invite them? then that is expected you pay for the treat out for everyone or at least the majority.

but if it was a friends' group decision, they should have prepared to pay before going there. if i did not, i would have called you , hey, im not sure i can pay for my share today, would it be possible if you spot me today and i pay you later? or , i cannot join, or whatever.

(but of course i would be able to pay . cmon)
post #5 of 83
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Originally Posted by Tarmac View Post
Never split a bill with white people

true that.
post #6 of 83
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Originally Posted by feynmix View Post
Lets see what the rest of the crowd thinks about this:

I had been dating this girl for the last 2 months, and things were going very well till about 2 weeks ago. It was her 25th birthday (i am 22), and I drove down from Richmond to Chapel Hill to celebrate her birthday with her and her friends. She loves to dance, so the plan was to get some dinner, head to a bar for a few drinks, and then head on over to a dance club in the Chapel Hill area.

Now, she wanted to eat Indian food that night, but I had only been to Chapel Hill once and I had no idea of what restaurant serves good Indian food in that area. Being Indian myself, I figured I could ask around and try to get some recommendations. Coincidentally, a couple of days before her birthday, I was sitting at an Indian restaurant in Richmond chatting up with the owner, and I asked him if he knew of any good places to eat in Chapel Hill. He tells me that a good friend of his owns a restaurant out there, and that he would call him for me and I can expect good food, good service, and a special discount at the end.

So, saturday night comes, we head over to the restaurant wit 3 of her friends. 2 more came late (a guy and a girl, they came as a couple), and ordered things on their own (since we had already ordered). First of all, they order a shit load of food for just 2 people. For 7 people, with 2 bottles of decent white wine, and a ton of food, the bill comes out to about $136 discount included. Since it was her birthday, we all decided she shouldn't pay and just to make the math easier for everyone else on the table, I figured I would get $150 ($25 each times 6) and then add a tip on my own on top of that, so that there is no problems with change and such.

Now, one of her friends just flat out tells me all he has is $20 cash, and I was like don't worry about it I will cover for you. 2 of her other friends pay $25 each. Now, the two that came late fucked up royally. The guy is like, I am paying a bit more just because, and ends up giving me $32. I was like, ok, thats fine. Although I didnt realize at the time, the girl doesn't pay at all. Either that, or the guy didn't pay for her. Now, I didn't really want to create a scene, so I was just like, whatever, and ended up paying $35 + $15 (additional tip).

Keep in mind though that I am the youngest one there, and a grad student to boot. Everyone else there on the table was working and was presumably making decent money. I didn't care at that point, because I didn't want to embarrass the girl's friends in front of everyone. Fast forward to the end of the night, when me and her are back at her place after having a really good time dancing, and she starts crying and tells me that she isn't really over someone and she isnt ready etc etc. So I basically just get up and leave.

We talked yesterday about what happened that night, and one of the reasons she gave was that she felt awkward that night and she felt guilty that she couldn't hang out with her friends. I was like, this is the same friends that didn't even pay for their own meals. Do you think I should have told her about her cheap friends (2 of them at least)? What they did isn't really classy at all, and I feel like she should know what her friends pulled off that night.

What would you do/have done? I am expecting a variety of responses, because different people act differently when it comes to money, food, and splitting bills.

Two seperate issues imo.

1) why is she crying about some past bf two months into dating you? How often have you actually gone out with this chick? Anyway, her reason about feeling guilty as an excuse for her behavior sounds like bs to me. Feeling guilty about not hanging out with your friends doesn't make you start crying. And besides, was there any particular reason the friends couldn't have gone to the club with you? If you're banging her, continue doing so, but she sounds flaky and I wouldn't get emotionally involved.

2) The couple shorted you $18. Personally, I wouldn't even bother bringing it up. You're not gonna get it back and you'll just make yourself look trivial. I'd just shitlist the guy. The girl might not even know her douchebag boyfriend didn't cover her for the meal.
post #7 of 83
You got screwed and that tends to happen when groups of people go out to have dinner. Sidenote, when i go out in a situation like that, i always have cash to avoid this type of situation.

You did the chivalrous thing by organizing the dinner and jumping on the grenade when the bill came. I would consider the money you are owed as lost.

Yes, tell her about the cheap friends but dont expect that to get her to want you back. The chick needs space and you need to not get hung up on her. If she wants you, she will make it clear. At the moment she is wasted energy and money!
post #8 of 83
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i dont know, also, did you ask them to join you, like did you invite them? then that is expected you pay for the treat out for everyone or at least the majority.

she organized and invited them. She invited me too. All I did was help her picking the restaurant, as she trusted my judgment since I love Indian food and tend to be very critical of Indian restaurants.


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Two seperate issues imo.

1) why is she crying about some past bf two months into dating you? How often have you actually gone out with this chick? Anyway, her reason about feeling guilty as an excuse for her behavior sounds like bs to me. Feeling guilty about not hanging out with your friends doesn't make you start crying. And besides, was there any particular reason the friends couldn't have gone to the club with you? If you're banging her, continue doing so, but she sounds flaky and I wouldn't get emotionally involved.

We had gone out about 6 times before that, and that includes a space of about 3 weeks when I wasn't in the area. I have no idea why and how it came up, but she basically started the "I am not over my last bf blah blah blah...". I am done with this girl.

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You got screwed and that tends to happen when groups of people go out to have dinner. Sidenote, when i go out in a situation like that, i always have cash to avoid this type of situation.

You did the chivalrous thing by organizing the dinner and jumping on the grenade when the bill came. I would consider the money you are owed as lost.

Yes, tell her about the cheap friends but dont expect that to get her to want you back. The chick needs space and you need to not get hung up on her. If she wants you, she will make it clear. At the moment she is wasted energy and money!

I am not hung up on her at all, its just a bit funny to me since the entire dinner conversation, all of her friends were talking about making it big and starting their own business and shit, and I see it a bit of irony that those same people don't carry enough money to cover for dinner, or don't have the decency to pay for their meal.

This is the first time I have gotten screwed this badly when splitting bills. My friends and I split bills all the time, and the max you might end up paying on top is like $2, and even that my friends make sure to pay me back.
post #9 of 83
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2) The couple shorted you $18. Personally, I wouldn't even bother bringing it up. You're not gonna get it back and you'll just make yourself look trivial.

I agree.


but sometimes it is worth a little money for the price of finding out about some people. chalking it up as a learning experience.

i once lent 10 dollars to a coworker (known to be a bit shifty around people) for lunch. a couple days later, he asked me ,"did i ever pay you back 10 dollars?"

i know he knows , how can anyone forget, he did not pay me back , but instead of saying , "no" i said:"I dont recall. what do you believe?" just to test him out.

He said, "Oh...i did. i believe i did. thanks"

so i never got the pay back and i never asked for it, but for me that 10 dollars was worth confirming to me who he was.
People talked smakc about him all the time, but i had no right to judge him unless he personally affected me.

i dont know why i am talking about this story. but it is somewhat related , no?
post #10 of 83
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I agree.


but sometimes it is worth a little money for the price of finding out about some people. chalking it up as a learning experience.

i once lent 10 dollars to a coworker (known to be a bit shifty around people) for lunch. a couple days later, he asked me ,"did i ever pay you back 10 dollars?"

i know he knows , how can anyone forget, he did not pay me back , but instead of saying , "no" i said:"I dont recall. what do you believe?" just to test him out.

He said, "Oh...i did. i believe i did. thanks"

so i never got the pay back and i never asked for it, but for me that 10 dollars was worth confirming to me who he was.
People talked smakc about him all the time, but i had no right to judge him unless he personally affected me.

i dont know why i am talking about this story. but it is somewhat related , no?

Some people are utter douchebags. I just don't lend money to people anymore. I don't have time to chase people down and I hate having to remember how much I gave to whom. So when someone asks I just tell them I don't have any cash on me. The exception is for good friends that I won't have to remind.
post #11 of 83
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Originally Posted by shoe View Post
I agree.


but sometimes it is worth a little money for the price of finding out about some people. chalking it up as a learning experience.

i once lent 10 dollars to a coworker (known to be a bit shifty around people) for lunch. a couple days later, he asked me ,"did i ever pay you back 10 dollars?"

i know he knows , how can anyone forget, he did not pay me back , but instead of saying , "no" i said:"I dont recall. what do you believe?" just to test him out.

He said, "Oh...i did. i believe i did. thanks"

so i never got the pay back and i never asked for it, but for me that 10 dollars was worth confirming to me who he was.
People talked smakc about him all the time, but i had no right to judge him unless he personally affected me.

i dont know why i am talking about this story. but it is somewhat related , no?

I have a story very similar to this...

One of my co-worker's ran out of gas and I had to go pick them up, mind you this is about a 20 minute drive from work, I make the effort to stop by a friends house and pick up a gas can.

When I get there, I help her push it out of the road, then we drive to the gas station. We get there and she says, "Oh I don't have any money". So I have to pay for the gas and then fill up her tank etc...

Its been about 2 weeks and she has not mentioned a word about it...
post #12 of 83
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Some people are utter douchebags. I just don't lend money to people anymore. I don't have time to chase people down and I hate having to remember how much I gave to whom. So when someone asks I just tell them I don't have any cash on me. The exception is for good friends that I won't have to remind.

not alot of people ask for borrowing money, but when they do i give everyone a chance one chance. to acquaintances and friends.
i would have been more respected if that coworker just said truthfully, " i dont have the ten and honestly i just wanted you to treat me that day. sorry."
i would have been better with that. because i dont mind treating people. i dont like deception. that is disrespect.
post #13 of 83
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I have a story very similar to this...

One of my co-worker's ran out of gas and I had to go pick them up, mind you this is about a 20 minute drive from work, I make the effort to stop by a friends house and pick up a gas can.

When I get there, I help her push it out of the road, then we drive to the gas station. We get there and she says, "Oh I don't have any money". So I have to pay for the gas and then fill up her tank etc...

Its been about 2 weeks and she has not mentioned a word about it...

gas costs $50+ to fill up a tank of gas, so i hope you go ask her to pay you back. there are civil ways to do it. good luck.
post #14 of 83
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Originally Posted by shoe View Post
gas costs $50+ to fill up a tank of gas, so i hope you go ask her to pay you back. there are civil ways to do it. good luck.
Oh i definately didn't fill up her tank, I put about 10 dollars in it... Even though I said I did...
post #15 of 83
That's a pretty shitty situation, and I think you escape ok by just covering for them. Considering it's your date, also not too bad idea to just pay the whole 150+tips and see if they treat u to drinks at bar later. Sometime you just need to test out these ppl out.

Were they under the impression that you will pay the whole bill? Do they want to be there??
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