As norcal writes, Gravati is an entirely different beast from C&J. Gravati shoes tend to have uppers made from very soft and characterful leather, they tend to be Blake-constructed (although they do some Bologna and will produce welted shoes if you ask for them), and their lasts, while not trendy, are often more fashion-forward than what you would find from C&J. Gravati's my favorite mid-level shoe manufacturer, and I own several pairs. I also own a couple of pairs of C&J shoes, and I wear the Gravatis much more frequently than I wear the C&Js, for whatever that's worth. Your shoes look to be Blake/Rapid-constructed, and I think that they're very attractive. Could you post the five-digit style number and the three-digit last number (I think that it's 640, but I'm not sure).