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Commenting from the Australian perspective (where tipping isn't really done but many places do encourage it) if the place is upmarket I will leave a small tip (I suppose the equivalent to overtipping) for good service, people with an attitude get a word to the manager.

2 stories:　I was dining in an Italian place in Sydney and had an absolutely fantastic waiter, she had a very welcoming attitude and was really nice. I asked her if she had to share her tips with the rest of the staff and she said yes and she'd much more appreciate a word to the manager who was doubting her ability, so I tucked $15 extra on the $80 tab and filled him in on her fantastic service.

Another time I cooked dinner for my parents and sister, and after dinner we decided to go for coffee and cake at an upmarket cafe right downstairs from my apartment. After waiting at the front of the line for 10 minutes, being totally ignored by the staff, even though the place wasn't that busy, we left and I called the place to tell them how disappointed we were at their lack of service. Unfortunately I got the machine but I'm hoping the crew on staff got reamed for that.

OP, I would have had a word to the manager about the waiter's attitude. You're paying good money to eat there, having to cop attitude like that is unacceptable. I'm not a shouter, all I'm going to do is clearly communicate that I do not want to be served by an individual who can't act professionally.

No. Obviously you do not understand this point, Jumbie.

What I'm about to tell you is going to be shocking, but your servers are not paid minimum wage. Not even close, in fact. It's been over 10 years since I've waited tables, but I think that I made $2.35 per hour at the time. Servers are completely dependent on their tips.

I always tip. Always. Even if the service is completely horrendous.

Why not give the benefit of the doubt? Everyone is entitled to a bad day.

no, servers do make minimum wage at least. the reason it seems you are making 2 dollars an hour is because you have to claim your tips and the tax is taken off of your paycheck. so it makes it look like you are making less than hourly wage. tips is not considered tax free.

I call BS. I waited tables and bartended in the US through college. I worked for my tips. Sometimes with personality (behind the bar) sometimes efficient and faceless (fine dining). I was good at what I did and regularly made in excess of 200 dollars for a ~6 hour shift, but if I gave a customer crap service I damn well knew it and would have expected the tip to reflect it.

The ~2 dollar wage argument is usually used by those that do a shit job. You take the crappy tippers with the generous ones, but if you do the job well you will average well in excess of not only the minimum wage, but higher than many jobs that dont require a degree. Jumbie didnt say that you shouldnt tip, he said that people should work for it. Same as in any job.

Ohh and I dont buy the bad day argument. If I wanted the mood / tone of my meal to be dictated by how someone's day was going, I would eat at my mother's. I pay a premium for service in a restaurant, and if I dont receive it...

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I went to dinner with the VP of a company I used to work at with some of my coworkers, a Christmas party. Bill came to about 1500 for the lot of us. He left a cash tip of 50. It wasn't until later in the evening that the arithmetic started to set in and I began to comprehend what had just happened. Ever since I've tipped generously for good service and poorly for poor service. I don't recall a time when I purposely left no tip but I won't say I've never done it. I don't like places that add a gratuity fee into the bill as it assumed quality service on all levels which, I'm afraid to say, I've been privy to the contrary but still forced to pay a "tip", as it were.