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post #106 of 312
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How do you know? Care to try?
I'd rather use Geek as the guinea pig.
post #107 of 312
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How do you know? Care to try?

With the right brain damage, you can lose your sight. With another, you can lose your ability for language. I think it is reasonable to conclude that with enough brain damage, all the things that make you 'you' (eg, sense perception, memory, ability for abstraction) cease to be. In what sense would 'you' still exist?
post #108 of 312
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In what sense would 'you' still exist?
Mebbe... as a ghost?
post #109 of 312
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but what the hell do you think happens when someone dies? That they just vanish?

Who said anything about people vanishing? Most rational people are of the opinion it takes a very long time for your typical body to decompose before it is unrecognisable - barring extreme conditions such as a nuclear bomb.

If you want to understand the default view that there is no afterlife, think back to when you were last dead, i.e. before you were born. That was nothingness, right? That's what many people consider to be what you experience (or rather, don't experience, because you won't experience a thing in my opinion).
post #110 of 312
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With the right brain damage, you can lose your sight. With another, you can lose your ability for language. I think it is reasonable to conclude that with enough brain damage, all the things that make you 'you' (eg, sense perception, memory, ability for abstraction) cease to be. In what sense would 'you' still exist?

With the right lobotomy anything is possible!
post #111 of 312
^Except death, apparently.
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Mebbe... as a ghost?
Not being facetious; what is a ghost?
post #112 of 312
One could be a ghost of a person.
post #113 of 312
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^Except death, apparently.



Not being facetious; what is a ghost?
Dude, I was just trying to insult the Connefused One.
post #114 of 312
Please do not let this thread devolve into another faith v. materialism debate. These personal experiences are really interesting.
post #115 of 312
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With the right brain damage, you can lose your sight. With another, you can lose your ability for language. I think it is reasonable to conclude that with enough brain damage, all the things that make you 'you' (eg, sense perception, memory, ability for abstraction) cease to be. In what sense would 'you' still exist?
I tend to agree with this rumination. This is an interesting take on the meaning of life and death. It's a John Hick lecture from 2002. http://www.johnhick.org.uk/article7.html
post #116 of 312
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Please do not let this thread devolve into another faith v. materialism debate. These personal experiences are really interesting.

+1. Though I don't have any myself.
post #117 of 312
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Please do not let this thread devolve into another faith v. materialism debate. These personal experiences are really interesting.

The original post asked about views on ghosts and not personal experiences.
post #118 of 312
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The original post asked about views on ghosts and not personal experiences.

That's not really relevant, as the thread has become something far more unusual and fascinating.
post #119 of 312
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That's not really relevant, as the thread has become something far more unusual and fascinating.

It's completely relevant. It's reasonable to be of the opinion that the thread should stick to the subject matter or that the conversation should be allowed to evolve. You're of neither, just the opinion that it should only contain posts that you personally find interesting. I personally find ghost stories extremely tedious, but if that's where the conversation is going, who am I to tell people what to do?
post #120 of 312
You're the only one posting these long reductionist rants. We've already had that thread like eight times.
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