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Could somebody please explain what kind of construction is this? These shoes are made by a local Russian brand. Styling is tacky, but the leather is actually pretty good. What bothers me, is that I can't understand what kind of construction is that. It seems that this is not a Goodyear welting — because the stitching pattern on the welt and on the sole is different. I wonder, what is stitched and what is glued here.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Moody Allen View Post

.......not a Goodyear welting — because the stitching pattern on the welt and on the sole is different. I wonder, what is stitched and what is glued here

I would say, the shoe is blake-stitched with a bonwelt in place. Bonwelts are leather strips which have the look of conventional welts but in reality, they serve only a decorative and no practical purpose.

Scroll down to 'bonwelts' in the catalogue. They come in 'endless' length, (rolls of 50 metres or so). Several have already a row of stitching in place,

http://www.barbourcorp.com/pdf/welting_catalog.pdf

Last the boots over the insole, glue the bonwelt in place. Glue on the middle sole (which probably has the rubber outer sole already attached). Then you remove the last from the shoes and guide the shoe through the blake stitching machine. One row of stitching will go through insole, the teeth of the bonwelt, middle and outer sole.
post #110 of 121

Thank you! So, being Blake-stitched, these shoe will actually have the stitching go through the sole into the chamber of the shoe, making them wet weather useless? Not a wise decision for a "hard-wearing" boot...

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this shoe construction business is getting ever more varied. I guess this has been the case for some time, but the days where a list would always consists of the traditional, norvegese (and other triple stitches), gyear, blake-rapid, rapid ,  bologna , 'simply glue' are gone

 

tough luck for pic based internet examinations

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 dinowhite, yes, you are right. But the brand doesn't answer, and buying and disassembling the shoe isn't that practical either, so I thought that someone experienced here would be able to tell.

 

By the way, my lady friend has this pair of shoes by Hudson, and the construction seems to be pretty similar, at least the bonwelt and blake stitching part.

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Originally Posted by Moody Allen View Post

 dinowhite, yes, you are right. But the brand doesn't answer, and buying and disassembling the shoe isn't that practical either, so I thought that someone experienced here would be able to tell.

 


I understand that of course

 

but I do think that in many instances -especially if we are not talking about 'dress shoes', (but even then)- the actual 'construction' is not that important if the quality is right

post #114 of 121
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Originally Posted by dinowhite View Post


I understand that of course

 

but I do think that in many instances -especially if we are not talking about 'dress shoes', (but even then)- the actual 'construction' is not that important if the quality is right

Well, sure, when buying some cheap crap-kickers to get through the winter I generally could care less about their construction, but if the pair is Blake-stitched, like it looks to be the case with the pair above, it seems pretty ridiculous. Why don't they just glue them? Who knows what the collective mind of Russian designers and Chinese shoemakers thought of...

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Originally Posted by Rankiz View Post

Too bad... since I want to know the difference between all different shoe styles.

I have a blog that I started a couple of months ago that has a shoe style album of the different styles at (http://oldleathershoe.com/wordpress/?cat=11). The album is about half way down the Shoe Types and Styles post.
post #116 of 121
Darn, the pics from the first post aren't working anymore. Is there any alternative collection of such photos in one place in this forum? (No, Google isn't it).
post #117 of 121

check glenjay's very informative blog. 

 

many of the best threads on this forum have picture missing from a great forum crash.

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Darn, the pics from the first post aren't working anymore. Is there any alternative collection of such photos in one place in this forum? (No, Google isn't it).

This!
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Most of the image links are dead. Can someone please update / fix this lovely piece? 

 

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Originally Posted by A Harris View Post

This article is meant as a quick reference to explain the design and construction of classic shoes and the terminology used to describe them. Pictures are crucial if you are to understand anything written below, so a link to a picture index is included at the end of the article.

Most classic shoe models can be traced back to bespoke shoemakers. Nearly all of them first appeared at least 75 years ago, and some have been around for more than one hundred years. They have evolved and have been refined, but most are still obviously connected to their original form. The driving force behind shoe design is really the silhouette of the clothes they are meant to be worn with – especially the trousers. Slim pants with a narrow (pegged) bottom require a slim fitting shoe unless you want your feet to appear larger than they actually are. Conversely, fuller-cut clothing requires heavier shoes. As a general rule, your trousers should cover the lacing of your shoes – approximately two thirds of the shoe’s length.

The most important factor to consider when choosing a shoe is the last. The last is the wooden form that the shoe is constructed around. It determines both the final shape of the shoe, and its’ fitting characteristics. Master lastmakers are, in a way, part scientist, doctor, architect and artist.

Also crucially important is the leather that the shoe is clicked (cut) from. The leather used to make the shoe upper is almost always chrome-salt (mineral) tanned in large rotating vats. Most fine shoe uppers are made from high-grade calfskin. Thicker cowhide is sometimes used for pebble-grained uppers and to a lesser extent, you will see fine shoes made from shell cordovan (horse leather) and even exotic leathers like alligator and crocodile. A fine shoe will have an insole and sole of thicker pit-tanned cowhide. This leather is vegetable-tanned using actual vegetable matter, not vegetable extracts. Most shoe linings are also vegetable tanned.
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There are a huge variety of methods used to construct shoes. Most require mass production and lots of glue – we will not concern ourselves with those. Most truly high-quality shoes are either welted, reverse welted or a variation. Some fine shoes are Blake-stitched or use an Italian moccasin construction. Let’s examine each method:

Welted shoes consist primarily of a leather upper, a welt, an insole, and an outsole (sole.) First, the insole is tacked to the bottom of the last. The insole is the thick (usually about 1/8") piece of vegetable-tanned leather that your foot rests on. It has a "feather" on the bottom of it. On a world-class bespoke shoe (and on a few elite ready-to-wear shoes like those of Laszlo Vass) the feather is "skived" into (cut from) the insole itself. However, most all ready-to-wear welted shoes use a glued-on feather made of linen. Next, the upper (with its inner stiffening layers and lining already attached, which layers are either natural leather or celastic depending on the quality of the shoe) is stretched around and tacked to the last. On a really fine shoe the upper is splashed with water and beaten with a hammer to compress the leather fibers, and to permanently mold them to the shape of the last. The leather is then allowed to dry completely and the process is repeated, often multiple times. (It should be noted that the majority of shoes, even very expensive ones, are lasted by machine.) Once the upper has been shaped the shoes are welted. The welt is a thin strip of leather - often two feet or more in length, about three quarters of an inch wide and an eighth of an inch thick. In this step the shoemaker uses a single row of lock-stitching (two interlocking stitches) to sew the welt to the upper leather to the feather (in that order.) Generally this is done with the aid of a Goodyear welting machine. In a very few small workshops the shoes are welted by hand. Once the shoes have been welted, the excess leather is trimmed away from above the seam, and the whole area is compressed with a hammer. Then the shallow, hollow section in the middle of the shoe (created by the attaching, and in some cases the skiving, of the insole) is filled. In most cases a shank (thin metal or wood strip that stabilizes the sole and heel,) and a leather covering used to hold it in place, fill the back half. The front half is sometimes filled with cork. The sole is then affixed with glue and sewn to the portion of the welt that protrudes from the front and sides of the shoe. The sewing of the sole is almost always done on a machine, with very few exceptions. On a top-quality shoe the sole stitching is hidden in a "channel" and is not visible on the bottom of the sole. Finally, the heel is either built from layers of leather fixed together with wood and brass pegs, or a pre-made heel is attached, and the shoe is finished.

Welted shoes are considered superior by most because they are very durable and are easily resoled. A top- quality welted shoe can almost always be sent back to the maker for resoling, or even re-crafting. The heel can be removed, the sole stitching undone, and a new sole and heel can then be attached. In cases of more extreme wear the insole and welt can be removed as well. The shoe can then be stretched back over the original last and remade. These processes can be repeated many times. As a result, a truly great pair of shoes can, with proper care and rotation, be worn for 10-20 years. And in some cases, men get 40 years or more out of them.

When a shoe needs to be highly water resistant, it is made differently. There are many methods - reverse welted, double-stitched, Norwegian-stitched, norvegese, veldtschoen etc. For the sake of brevity, I will not go into the specific differences. The main similarity is the welt and/or the upper leather curves out and away from the shoe, instead of down and in - the advantage being that that water cannot easily penetrate and wet the sole, like it can with a regular-welted shoe. Thus, reverse-welted shoes are more water-resistant, and more casual than a regular-welted shoe. They can generally be recognized by the double or triple row of stitching on the outside of the shoe where the upper meets the sole. It should be noted that some Italian makers will add a braided stitch just for looks, so buyer beware.

Blake-stitching and moccasin constructions are used primarily by Italian shoemakers. A traditional moccasin is made without an insole. The upper leather wraps all the way around the foot and is sewn by hand to a flat vamp that sits on top of your toes and instep. The sole is then sewn directly to the upper on a machine. The most famous example of this method is the classic Gucci slip-on.

Blake-stitched shoes have an upper, an insole, and a sole - like a welted shoe. But they do not have a welt. The insole (which is flat – no feather) and upper are attached to the last. Then the sole is glued on and a single row of machine-stitching is used to stitch through and attach the sole, the insole, and the upper. The one advantage of this method is that it can make for a very light, thin-soled shoe. However, Blake-stitched shoes are not as water resistant, as durable, or as easily repaired as a welted shoe. If the manufacturer has not covered the insole with a full-length insole-cover, you can recognize a Blake-stitched shoe by looking inside it. You will see a single row of stitching around the forepart of the shoe.

Italian shoemakers are also incredibly good at coming up with alternate ways of making shoes. They employ a bewildering array of methods and combinations of shoemaking that I could not possibly cover here. Some of the methods are labor-saving shortcuts that allow for a combination of machine and handwork, and some involve very complicated handwork that can make for exquisite shoes.

While the last, the leather, and the construction of the shoe are vital, you must like its’ design as well. Most high-end shoes are variations on a few classic models. Lace-up shoes are generally divided into those with open lacing and those with closed lacing. Before I indicate the difference between open and closed lacing, I must define two crucial terms. The vamp is the forepart of the shoe that covers the toes and instep. The quarters are exactly what they sound like - the two back quarters of the shoe, which extend from the center-back seam and generally end at the midpoint of the shoe. On a shoe with closed lacing, the vamp is sewn on top of the quarters, and the tongue is usually a separate piece. On a shoe with open lacing the quarters are sewn on top of the vamp, and the tongue is usually an extension of the vamp. Shoes with closed lacing are often called oxfords or balmorals, and shoes with open lacing are called derbys or bluchers.

In addition, formal lace-up shoes are often referred to as "plain," or as "half brogues" or "full brogues." A plain shoe is just as it sounds – there are no decorations other than perhaps a double row of stitching on the toe-cap. Brogueing refers to a pattern of decorative punched holes along a shoe’s seams. "Half-brogue" usually indicates a shoe with a straight toe-cap and extensive brogueing. "Full-brogue" indicates a wingtip shoe with extensive brogueing. Half-brogues and full brogues almost always have a punched "medallion" decoration on the toe.

Lace-up shoes can also be whole-cut. This means that that the entire upper is cut from a single piece of leather. This takes a lot of skill and usually increases the price of the shoe. Shoes can also close with a buckle, in which case they are referred to as "monkstraps" or "monks." Generally monkstraps are a variation on the derby. Another version of the derby is called the "Norwegian." Most Norwegians have three-piece vamp with a hand-stitched apron-front and split toe. In some versions of the Norwegian, the quarters extend all the way to the front of the shoe and join at the middle of the toe. Finally, there are slip-on shoes. They can be made in any number of ways – moccasin, welted, reverse welted, Blake-stitched etc. They can be constructed and decorated in many ways, can resemble brogues or Norwegians, can have saddles or tassels, or they can be completely plain. There are innumerable variations.

I hope this article will be of use to you in your quest for the perfect shoes.


A cap-toe oxford/balmoral. By Edward Green:



A cap-toe derby/blucher. By Edward Green:




On the left - a wingtip (full brogue) oxford/balmoral. By Church's. On the right - a wingtip (full brogue) derby/blucher. By John Lobb:



A wingtip (full brogue) oxford/balmoral. By Laszlo Vass:



A reverse-welted, half-brogue, oxford/balmoral. By Sutor Mantellassi:



A reverse-welted Norwegian monk-strap. By Sutor Mantellassi:




A Norwegian. By Laszlo Vass:



A bespoke Budapest (a full brogue derby.)  By Laszlo Vass:



A slip-on with a version of the Norwegian front. By Edward Green:



A whole-cut shoe. By Edward Green:



A channeled sole. By Laszlo Vass:



A channeled sole. By Silvano Lattanzi:



This is what a hand-welted shoe looks like before the shank spring, cork and sole are atached. A machine welted shoe would look somewhat different because the feather would be glued on instead of skived. By Laszlo Vass:




A close-up of the picture above:




"Clicking" the upper. Taken in workshop of Laszlo Vass:



Lasting the shoe. Taken in the workshop of Laszlo Vass:



Sewing the welt by hand. Remember, most shoemakers do this with a machine. Taken in the workshop of Laszlo Vass:



Sewing the sole by hand. This also is done by machine in almost all workshops. Taken in the workshop of Laszlo Vass:

 

 

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WOW! What a great thread, was trolling around and found this....very informative.

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