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post #46 of 64
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Either you stick with what the designer envisioned his design to look like, or you don't.

Well, that is exactly what I'm questioning. What makes you think there was a original "pure" design in the first place? To suggest such things, is to pretty much contradict the entire Eames philosophy in design.

This chair is derivative of many prototypes before it, and was changed by the Eames Office even after production started...they dropped the rosewood, they dropped the glove leather and they dropped the down filling. To suggest an idea of the only "proper" colour being black seems absurd.

I'll quote Eames Demetrios, Director of the Eames Office himself...

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"Excellent question, which goes to the heart of the Eames design philosophy. You are correct that the first Lounge Chairs had down in them. They also were upholstered in glove leather. But both elements were aspects of the design that Charles and Ray ultimately felt they could improve. Glove leather ultimately wore out too quickly and they did not like the way down flattened over time."

Remember, that for Charles and Ray, the design process was never over. So this Special Edition is not a recreation of the first lounge chair; it doesn't seem very Eamesian for us to do that. Instead, it is a dramatic expression of the authentic design. Charles and Ray did not design vintage furniture. They essentially designed systems to give customers the guest/host experience Charles and Ray were after.


And Charles and Ray did not work alone...many talented designers played more than a small part in their designs. Don Albinson probably deserves as much credit for this chair as anybody.
post #47 of 64
I believe Hugh Laurie in House has one in corduroy
post #48 of 64
Corduroy actually sounds very nice - I couldn't imagine that it would last very long though.
post #49 of 64
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Originally Posted by freshcutgrass View Post
Well, that is exactly what I'm questioning. What makes you think there was a original "pure" design in the first place? To suggest such things, is to pretty much contradict the entire Eames philosophy in design.

This chair is derivative of many prototypes before it, and was changed by the Eames Office even after production started...they dropped the rosewood, they dropped the glove leather and they dropped the down filling. To suggest an idea of the only "proper" colour being black seems absurd.

you are talking about manufacturing process, which I'm sure the Eames were always trying to improve. I'm talking about the leather colour, a purely aesthetic choice. I read it somewhere, and maybe if I have enough time, I'll try to collect the evidences from the public library next saturday.

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I'll quote Eames Demetrios, Director of the Eames Office himself...

Yes, well I don't know if I trust someone so eager to cash up on the royalties of his grandfather's work.

!luc
post #50 of 64
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Originally Posted by robin View Post
Corduroy actually sounds very nice - I couldn't imagine that it would last very long though.
There are new corduroys made of very durable fabrics other than cotton. It's definitely an option. You'd be amazed at some of the upholstery fabrics now that look delicate but can withstand 20k "double rubs" or whatever. My only issue with corduroy is the nap - I don't like fabrics that have a nap aside from mohair velvet which is springy enough not to leave marks. Especially awful are those microfiber fake suedes that leave hand prints all over them. Maybe mohair corduroy? Nice thing about the Eames design is that it needs much less fabric than a fully upholstered chair (4 yards for the chair and 1 for the ottoman), and actually aside from the welt (which one could skip) it's a pretty easy design to reupholster - you just pull the fabric around the back of the shells and staple it. This site lists the labor charge for the chair at $425 in the Boston area, but if you go out of the major cities it gets much cheaper.
post #51 of 64
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Originally Posted by CTGuy View Post
Those plycraft chairs are really cool. How difficult would it be to get someone to reupholster an older one? I mean-- ballpark how much might something like that cost?
I'd expect 4-600 for the labor depending on where you go and who you know, and then the sky's the limit for the fabric, but you only need 5 yards for the chair and ottoman, so you could kind of go nuts with that. Decent fabrics can be had for pretty cheap (under $30/yd) if you can find a remnant (and 5 yards is not much, so there are more options) but based on what I was looking at recently, I'd expect somewhere from $50-90 a yard to have a really good range of options. But that's still not much money compared to the value of the finished chair. The really nice thing about getting a used one and reupholstering it is that you can make changes to the padding - for example, you might add a top layer of down over all the cushions (which can be DIY'd cheaply by double-stitching the shapes into a down comforter and then cutting around the stitching) and a thin layer of higher density foam at the bottom of the seat cushion, etc.
post #52 of 64
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Originally Posted by j View Post
There are new corduroys made of very durable fabrics other than cotton. It's definitely an option. You'd be amazed at some of the upholstery fabrics now that look delicate but can withstand 20k "double rubs" or whatever.

My only issue with corduroy is the nap - I don't like fabrics that have a nap aside from mohair velvet which is springy enough not to leave marks. Especially awful are those microfiber fake suedes that leave hand prints all over them.

Maybe mohair corduroy? Nice thing about the Eames design is that it needs much less fabric than a fully upholstered chair (4 yards for the chair and 1 for the ottoman), and actually aside from the welt (which one could skip) it's a pretty easy design to reupholster - you just pull the fabric around the back of the shells and staple it. This site lists the labor charge for the chair at $425 in the Boston area, but if you go out of the major cities it gets much cheaper.

Thanks dude-- very good info.
post #53 of 64
BTW, if you wanted to stick within the Eames theme, they designed some fabrics: http://www.jandofabrics.com/products.asp?id=70 I think this one would look awesome on the Eames Lounge - http://www.jandofabrics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=cha0009
post #54 of 64
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Yes, well I don't know if I trust someone so eager to cash up on the royalties of his grandfather's work.


I suppose you're right...I'm much better off trusting unsubstantiated claims and accusations by anonymous message board members.

Slow down...I can't shovel that fast.
post #55 of 64
I had one of those chairs (leather) in my room when I was a kid and I remember a huge "whoosh" of air when I got out of it. Tweed might dampen that a bit.
post #56 of 64
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post
I had one of those chairs (leather) in my room when I was a kid and I remember a huge "whoosh" of air when I got out of it. Tweed might dampen that a bit.
Yeah, there is a woosh when you sit down and a pheeeeeewww when you get up. All the air has to escape via the holes in the bottom of the cushion shell or the button holes. The tweed would be a bit quieter, but I think the whoosh is actually kind of a subconsciously(?) relaxing sound, as if when you finally get to sink into it at the end of the day, your cares might be exhausted out with that air.
post #57 of 64
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I think a black and white glen plaid could look really nice.

Yea...sure. Lots of patterns would look great. A small patterned David Hicks fabric would be a little out of the box, yet trendy, while maintaining a bit of period authenticity. A Pucci print would definitely make a statement.

I think African mud cloth would be perfect with that chair...but far too delicate to be practical.

Without giving it too much thought, my personal choice would be hair-on gazelle. The hair is actually very smooth and silky, and the various shades of brown with pure white highlights would blend so nicely with the veneer of the chair. And the hides aren't overly expensive either.
post #58 of 64
Zebra skin might add an exotic touch, but personally, I think giraffe hide suits the design better.
post #59 of 64
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
You know, I can actually imagine that. But for what it's worth, if I don't get the tweed, I think I'll stick to a dark green pebble grain leather.
Rosewood and a British Racing Green pebblegrain leather sounds like a very winning combination to me. When I get mine, I might just steal your idea!
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
^^^ I would want a traditional-looking tweed that's less bold. But yes, that's the idea. I think a black and white glen plaid could look really nice.
That sounds nice, too.
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Originally Posted by Luc-Emmanuel View Post
Eames (alive) never allowed anything but black leather on his lounge chair, I think he was right.
I don't know. I don't like black leather generally. And one man's "iconic" is another's "cliche." The best looking Eames lounges I've seen have had cognac or creme leather.
post #60 of 64
Any of you guys ever do this? Got a line on a cheap plycraft lounger and considering what the cost of upholstery would be in, I dunno, boucle wool blend or leather.
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