Originally Posted by Brothersport
^ fyi "let bigons be bigons" is closer to "let bigots be bigots" than the actual phrase of "let bygones be bygones." both are actually kind of true, i guess.
and a suit is a unit, so the vast disparity between top and bottom to me is striking, unflattering, and ill-fitting. I've also never heard anything good about Emporio Armani suiting ever, either from the time I've spent on MC or the much less frequent suit talk here.
Originally Posted by KitAkira
I like it when Yohji does it because there's an actual vision behind it, that fit just looks like they took a sz.38 jacket and paired it with 44 trousers. That's like saying the guy who wears sz.36 jeans with a 30in waist is "playing with proportions" or the guy wearing dad jeans and an oversized Target hoodie, fitting like shit /= experimenting with proportions
Emporio has never been high quality, and yes I've handled a fair share of them. I'm not saying I have a closet-full of SR suits to compare it to, but I would place EA at the level of Boss, higher end of the low level. Fabrics range from crap to forgettable, fused canvas, and (to me) a shit fit. Collezioni is vastly superior to EA (and of course, mainline above that) and can be found for nearly the same price as many EA suits.
I'm not sure what you mean by Yohji's having an "actual vision behind it", perhaps you mean they aren't as creative, but I'd argue that most high street brands (including the SF approved ones) don't have such a 'vision' like Yohji.
Ultimately though it comes down to how it looks, and I can accept that you think they just look like big pants, but big pants wouldn't fit well in the top block like these do and well these pants aren't actually that big - for instance, I would say these are more in the line of the MC mindset rather than MC hammer.
Fair enough on the quality remark though, maybe I was blinded by all the fancy textures and shiny materials, it was a while since I stepped in an EA store. Though I will say Hugo Boss is not too shabby as far as high-street is concerned, so if EA can provide a slightly better product but at a similar price (that is, being bought on deep discount) then quality would still match the price point. As for the fused suits and jackets, I agree that this is somewhat unacceptable for a prestigious brand like EA with it's price tag, but there are many SF brands that do fused just as well, so we should be careful not to hold a double standard.
I will say though I'm not trying to being difficult here, I just think sometimes we (myself included) can get into habits of knee-jerk reactions when it comes to talking about anything that isn't SF approved or internet fora approved, without considering things on a level playing field. That's all.