Question re: RRL (Double RL) Jeans - Page 15

What's up with this stretch model?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ralph-Lauren-RRL...3%3A1|294%3A50

Haven't seen or read about this one before.

Just like the case of my RRLs. Oh wait...
That's assuming that all brands put the same amount of starch in their jeans, whether STF or sanforized; that's a fallacy. Take a look at post-soak pics of Japanese STF repros and see how they STAND UP BY THEMSELVES. Clearly, they've held on to more than enough starch after the wash. Compare that to sanforized jeans like 5EP or a lot of what Cone puts out (Crate, rag&bone, etc.) and the Japanese repros look like they're made of solid steel.
Do you mind if I ask if this is coming from personal experience or from reading other posts? Also, are you confusing "one-wash" with "rinsed?" Usually when people say "one-wash" they are talking about a pair of jeans that were unsanforized and then soaked in water.

The visual difference of RRL's rinsed vs. raw is noticeable but I don't buy the "less potential for contrast" one bit. Assuming you wash and wear the two pairs the exact same way, at the end of a year or more they're going to be looking nearly identical. Take the 5EPxSFs, for example. While they were sanforized many still went ahead and gave an initial soak. When you take a look at the evolution pictures they all look about the same with the only real difference being the amount of wear put in to each pair. Hell, some people even washed theirs more than others but they still looked about the same.

Since... a while. Blue in Green is an example off the top of my head who uses "one-wash" to mean a pair of unsanforized jeans soaked in water. Link.
Even the rigid RRLs aren't super starched compared to other brands. You were the one who said, "sanforized raw will fade faster than one wash stf because they apply the starch after they sanforized the denim" so I corrected you.
I was disproving your point that jeans that are heavily starched have better fades and somehow more contrast. It's internet hype started as a misunderstanding. Those older gen "rigid" RRLs were as soft at the beginning as the rinse models are today and yet they still came out beautifully. In fact, I believe your words were, "fucking awesome."

3 months in and you're already preaching others on denim?

Here is an example of a "˜holy grail' denim Sugar Cane 1947 from Grand Master Ryu that was washed every month for a year



More incredible stuff (Ryu has owned and faded hard dozens of jeans, all w/ regular washing) here:

http://letgoasyoulike.fc2web.com/denim.htm

Right. Feel free to look up pictures of nicer looking Canes that have been worn for the same amount, on SuFu or here. Good luck.


I posted about Ryu because you're making, at least to my eyes and several others, a generic statement. Also, Ryu have managed to create great fades on a dozen of different jeans from different makes, some of which aren't "designed for contrast".


In any case, you won't see much contrast in ANY 4-months jeans (unless they're pre-distressed, of course ). Exaggeration much?

Have you considered those jeans might not be "designed for contrast".

In any case, I bet these still look better than your jeans. Oh wait, you haven't posted pic of yours yet.

you reek of teenager

Ok, I've had enough of this.

You're talking out of your ass, pure and simple. The denim RRL used in the past is completely different from what is used today, not only in the amount of starch used but in the type of indigo blend as well as the cotton being hairy as opposed to flat today. The slimfit, the pair you see photographed, is a mens model. Not only can I attest to these facts but so can a few other members on this forum who own pairs and, more importantly, Godmother, ex-RRL denim designer.

Fine, you bought a pair of RRL's a couple of months ago. Cute. Don't continue to make shit up without looking a bit more in your story first.

Albert, I am surprised you are even wasting your time arguing with this kid, he just doesn't know and will never know...

24...

that just makes it more sad?

Eh... I wouldn't want someone to come across this thread and actually believe the B.S. he's putting out. It just sounds like a condensed form of all the misinformation and myths thrown around sufu by guys on their first pairs of jeans who read the posts of other guys on their first pairs. I get it, though. It's the internet and it's usually rare that someone will have the proof to discredit each and every one of your claims. Or that the person you're arguing against just happens to know the designer and her family of the jeans in question.

^ What's the point? Everyone knows RRL has a cut named "Slim Fit" in both men and women lineups, you referred to that yourself a few post up. Whodini's specifically referring to the men model.


BTW, not that you have any credibility to begin with


Here're pics of some jeans I wore and washed liberally, for a year. I live in SOUTH TEXAS.


http://www.styleforum.net/showthread...gh#post1467519

wow, dude you really have nothing better to do. when i was 24 all i cared about was getting fucked up and into some young broad's panties, not arguing over denim on the internetz trying to make myself feel superior. i mean do you actually think a girl gives a fuck about the fact you know about RRL denim or what kinda sweet fadez you got on your jawnz, fuck no! she'll you're a loser and take that tired little drink you bought her and bounce, so basically i am saying step away from the computer and put your money to good use like buying a hooker instead of a new pair of denim because that's about the only way i ever see you having a chance of even getting some pussy and that's by paying for it...

Why don't you PM someone like LA Guy to clue you in?
Great link. Too bad it's a newer generation and not the older generation I, and several others on here, own. You might have realized that when you didn't see the "RRL" stamped on my 5-pocket or if you noticed that my jeans have a zippper.

But go on, you were saying how I didn't know my own jeans.

Godmother owns 5ep ( ). She designed for RRL. End of story. Argue with Whodini all you want, but this isn't up for debate. It's a fact.