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post #181 of 296
Under.. I do this with any jeans that have the Lee-styled patches.
post #182 of 296
Hey, I worse my raw RRL jeans for two months, washed them inside out in cold water. Very little to no fading. From what I can tell, RRL jeans hold their color very well. I didn't do the hot wash or anything. The jeans kind of shank back to normal size, but these jeans stretch out real easily.

Overall, the RRL jeans are great, but they don't appear to be the easiest to fade. These will get a lot of wear but I'm thinking about picking up some APCs or Crates for the next raw project in order to get true fading
post #183 of 296
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post
Hey, I worse my raw RRL jeans for two months, washed them inside out in cold water. Very little to no fading. From what I can tell, RRL jeans hold their color very well. I didn't do the hot wash or anything. The jeans kind of shank back to normal size, but these jeans stretch out real easily. Overall, the RRL jeans are great, but they don't appear to be the easiest to fade. These will get a lot of wear but I'm thinking about picking up some APCs or Crates for the next raw project in order to get true fading
You ain't going to see much of anything after two months, unless you make a living as a stuntman, regardless of brand. Older RRL is known to hold its own more compared to the newer denim but both definitely fade well if you put in the work.
post #184 of 296
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Originally Posted by whodini View Post
You ain't going to see much of anything after two months, unless you make a living as a stuntman, regardless of brand.

Older RRL is known to hold its own more compared to the newer denim but both definitely fade well if you put in the work.

Yeah, the RRL tags say wait 3 months, I wanted to shrink em back with a wash so I can get them hemmed, so I washed them after 2 months. I will likely hem them now and try to fade them again. Can you fade after 1 wash?
post #185 of 296
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Under.. I do this with any jeans that have the Lee-styled patches.

Thanks for the opinion. Anyone else?
post #186 of 296
Over the patch. Under looks goofy.

The chainstitch on both legs of my RRL Straights (worn cuffed) has blown out - thinking of sending them to get hemmed by an inch or so and not wearing them cuffed. I do love everything else about them, though, they're pretty much a perfect fit for the mechanic/photojournalist thing I appear to be working these days (not my adjectives, those are the last two things people asked me why I dress as).
post #187 of 296
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post
Yeah, the RRL tags say wait 3 months, I wanted to shrink em back with a wash so I can get them hemmed, so I washed them after 2 months. I will likely hem them now and try to fade them again. Can you fade after 1 wash?
Of course they'll continue to fade.
post #188 of 296
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denim that holds indigo is better
This is hardly a universal truism.
post #189 of 296
I've had my RRLs since mid december and have been wearing them quite a lot. They are a bit too big (didn't size down) so some of the lines aren't going to come on as strong but they are definately showing some fading but not much. No wash yet...there is pretty clear phone and wallet fading but only a little bit on the whiskers and combs. As to the leather patch, I wear the belt inside of it since it seems to help correct for the fact that the pants are too big on me
post #190 of 296
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I've had my RRLs since mid december and have been wearing them quite a lot. They are a bit too big (didn't size down) so some of the lines aren't going to come on as strong but they are definately showing some fading but not much. No wash yet...there is pretty clear phone and wallet fading but only a little bit on the whiskers and combs.

As to the leather patch, I wear the belt inside of it since it seems to help correct for the fact that the pants are too big on me

Same here...I've had them since May-June of last year. They're literally the only pair of jeans I own so I wear them at least once or twice on the weekends.

Only in the last couple months have I noticed any fading. Since I should have sized down the fades are only evident where my wallet and cell phone always go, and the knees.
post #191 of 296
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Originally Posted by whodini View Post
You ain't going to see much of anything after two months, unless you make a living as a stuntman, regardless of brand.

Older RRL is known to hold its own more compared to the newer denim but both definitely fade well if you put in the work.

I have a pair of older RRL that i have been wearing for a year (lets say 3 - 4 times a week) and they are hardly faded at all
post #192 of 296
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I"m just wondering do you own the rinsed or the rigid rrls?

from what I can tell rigid rrls fade extremely well given about 6months to a year.

Not sure.
post #193 of 296
In my experience they fade pretty slowly.
post #194 of 296
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I have a pair of older RRL that i have been wearing for a year (lets say 3 - 4 times a week) and they are hardly faded at all
Tomorrow I'll photograph my pair. Older gen, one year of solid wear with two years of occasional wear after that. After one year of wearing them practically every day and two washes, they are faded as fuck. These aren't IH's. Yes, they're stubborn but it's nothing impossible.
post #195 of 296
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Originally Posted by dcdenim View Post
of course it is, denim made with natural indigo is much harder to fade than synthetic indigo.
Utterly irrelevant - and 'fading' is not necessarily an indicator of quality.

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The idea of good quality denim is it keeps it color. Fading raw jeans quickly is a fad started by lazy people who don't want to invest lots of time to see good results.
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Look at the 501s, after 3-4 months there is hardly any dyes left on them and they are synonymous with cheap denim.
Yes, $35 501 STF is lower-quality denim and not as colorfast as Japanese selvedge. Shocking.

But in the realm of high-end denim, there are brands that fade relatively quickly (Flat Head/RJB, Warehouse, Samurai, etc.) and brands that take forever (Iron Heart, Eternal) and many in between. Do you really want to argue that FH/Warehouse/Sam are 'low-quality' denim because they show fading before RRL will?

It's a design and manufacturing choice.

But fading is also a product of how you wear and wash. I've seen wonderfully faded Iron Hearts (on the wall of SelfEdge for one) - they don't have the hyper-contrasty look some prefer, but there's a wonderful vintage look to them. Kiya would have to confirm, but I'm pretty sure the SE pair was washed 13 times in twelve months or something like that.

Since I got these RRLs so cheap, that's my plan - gave them a first wash around two months, and I'm going to do it every month from now on
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