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post #151 of 164
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Originally Posted by RichmondStyle View Post
I have just commenced a total overhaul of my ill-fitting outdated suit collection and, with the help of SF I have purchased a few new suits that put everything I owned before to shame.

I'm tempted to go all the way and start building a pocket square collection and start wearing them to work. My only concern, however, is that I have NEVER in my 8 years of practicing law at a big firm (top 5) in New York and now down here in Richmond seen anyone sporting a pocket square.

I'm afraid that I would totally stick out as some sort of dandy if I started wearing pocket squares around here. Are there any other SF'ers at BIGLAW firms who wear pocket squares or see others who do?

If you care about what other people think at the point of not puting a piece of cloth in a pocket because of what they may think, I doubt that you are intelligent enough to work in a big firm.
post #152 of 164
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post #153 of 164
Pockets squares are a sign of affectation nearly everywhere. They are worn almost exclusively by attention-whoring dandies (fops) and members of SF.
post #154 of 164
Are you at Hunton? If so, skip the square. I speak from experience.
post #155 of 164
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Originally Posted by Lawman View Post
Are you at Hunton? If so, skip the square. I speak from experience.

Hunton does not operate on a calendar year fiscal year (OP indicated would be a partner as of Jan 1) - so I think not.

You're experience must not have been very long - though I don't disagree with your advice.
post #156 of 164
Cheers on the good news (particularly in light of the times!). Are people digging it?
post #157 of 164
After reading this thread, I'm starting to worry. Should I return the 20 Eric Glennie ties I bought for my upcoming SA stint? Will the partners at my summer firm appreciate the art of the avant-garde necktie?
post #158 of 164
I work in BigLaw on the staff side of things and I pretty much wear a pocket square every day when I'm wearing a sport coat. That said, I'm sure it might rub some people the wrong way, although we're a relatively laid back bunch. But I do it because I think it's important to dress properly in order convey the respect to your colleagues and clients, especially since I'm in the pro bono section. It doesn't hurt that one of our most senior attorneys is considered somewhat of a style icon in the city... Still, if you're worried about rocking the boat, go with a rectangular fold linen square and let it peek only a bit out of your chest pocket. It seems to work for Don Draper!
post #159 of 164
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I work in BigLaw on the staff side of things and I pretty much wear a pocket square every day when I'm wearing a sport coat. That said, I'm sure it might rub some people the wrong way, although we're a relatively laid back bunch. But I do it because I think it's important to dress properly in order convey the respect to your colleagues and clients, especially since I'm in the pro bono section. It doesn't hurt that one of our most senior attorneys is considered somewhat of a style icon in the city...

Still, if you're worried about rocking the boat, go with a rectangular fold linen square and let it peek only a bit out of your chest pocket. It seems to work for Don Draper!


You seem to dress very well from your pictures, but staff is kind of a different deal. In my experience, so long as they are adhere to the literal requirements of the dress policy, no one seems to care one way or the other what the staff wears (unless the person in question is a hot female). They can wear things that would be laughable for attorneys to wear and not even get a second glance. So justifying wearing something on the grounds that staff members do it is definitely not a good rule of thumb. That said, I'm glad to see that you adhere to such a high standard of dress and I'm sure you serve as an example to others in your group.
post #160 of 164
I can understand being looked down upon for poor style choices but call me naive but I never thought the same could happen when one made a a seemingly rationale sartorial choice. I have never worked in law but it never dawned on me that I could offend someone by by accidentally dressing better than they did.
post #161 of 164
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They can wear things that would be laughable for attorneys to wear and not even get a second glance. So justifying wearing something on the grounds that staff members do it is definitely not a good rule of thumb.

Hm, I wasn't necessarily advocating the position that what works for the staff works for the attorneys, but moreso what you said about no one really caring what the staff can and cannot get away with - which helps with my sartorial choices. If I were an attorney, you're right, I probably could not and should not get away with wearing a strong windowpane patterned shirt like I was the other day.

But, in terms of the pocket square debate, I don't think a conservative rectangle fold is going to offend anyone, staff or attorneys.
post #162 of 164
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Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff View Post
Mishon and MAfoofan,

The lesson is that you shouldnt tell people anything. If they ask where you got your suit, tell em Jos A Bank. If they ask how much, tell em 150 bucks.



Good point.

We know a lady who owns some sable coats. She freely wears them around New York City (subway, buses, etc.).

She is often asked by strangers "is that sable?"

Her stock response: "This?! It's nylon, and I pop it in the washing machine!"
post #163 of 164
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
I'm wearing one to work today. I don't expect any problems.
Thread title says Big Law, not Small Timer Law.

post #164 of 164
There is much conformity and pressure to conform in a big law firm. Think of it as a high school with a bunch of middle aged men.

If you have confidence and style you can wear pocket squares, bow ties, etc. For the young associate, it is a little difficult to buck the trend, but you need to stand-out from the others. If you're exceptional, why not look exceptional?

However, if you lack confidence and seek to be one of the herd, then you will avoid any sartorial flourishes or quirks. On the other hand, meekness will get you nowhere.

The legal profession still has a streak of dandyism which will allow pocket squares. Therefore, a good number of the lawyers and public will not see a pocket square as unusual.

Good luck.
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