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Originally Posted by CanadaCal View Post

Those look great and will fit in with my jackets great!   Can anyone comment on their fit vs. Epaulet Walt/Driggs or S&M Slim/Contemporary.  

Don't want quality comparisons, just fit please as those are my most worn trousers. 

My initial impression is that the Bella spalla trousers are similar to Walts. Slim but not skinny. More of a tailored fit. I went one size down based on the measurements (32 instead of my Walt 33). I don't have any driggs or s&m. I haven't taken them to the tailor yet but can report back after I do.

My only comment, made above as well, is the pockets are smaller/shorter than my Walts. @ehaberdasher said he'd address that with the next iteration.
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I second the motion on the blue hopsack trousers. While I'm a little back and forth on the coat alone, I'd be tempted to pull the trigger if I could get matching pants for a summer casual suit.

 

Also, for what it's worth, I prefer the newer cut to the last round of Bella Spalla. The slight increase in the chest solves my problem of having to go 38r and be too tight or 40r and have the shoulders be too wide.

post #3168 of 3611
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Originally Posted by Sudonihm View Post


My initial impression is that the Bella spalla trousers are similar to Walts. Slim but not skinny. More of a tailored fit. I went one size down based on the measurements (32 instead of my Walt 33). I don't have any driggs or s&m. I haven't taken them to the tailor yet but can report back after I do.

My only comment, made above as well, is the pockets are smaller/shorter than my Walts. @ehaberdasher said he'd address that with the next iteration.

 

Thanks, looked this way from the measurements, possibly even a little fuller in the thighs, but with a lower rise.  I also take a 33 in Walts and will go down to 32 on these.  Been looking for a quality brownish summer trouser.  Looks very promising, I'm in likely for taupe mohair, maybe coffee fresco also.

post #3169 of 3611
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Originally Posted by CanadaCal View Post
 

 

Thanks, looked this way from the measurements, possibly even a little fuller in the thighs, but with a lower rise.  I also take a 33 in Walts and will go down to 32 on these.  Been looking for a quality brownish summer trouser.  Looks very promising, I'm in likely for taupe mohair, maybe coffee fresco also.

 

That's good to hear, I always appreciate extra thigh room. It's hard to find good pants with athletic legs these days. 

post #3170 of 3611
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Originally Posted by eHaberdasher View Post

Hey A. any chance you can throw the 36S on so we can see that one too?

So this is kinda embarrassing, but here you go ...



I've gained about 20 lbs. since October, and where my chest used to measure somewhere between a 36 and a 38, it now measures more like 38.5". And my waist has expanded, too ... shog[1].gif

Needless to say, I'm going with a 38S.

Two more observations on these jackets:
  • The brown plaid I'm wearing is fantastic--beautiful fabric with a great hand and nice weight to the cloth.
  • They come with hefty eHaberdasher wooden hangers. Nice touch.
post #3171 of 3611
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Originally Posted by thisfits View Post

So this is kinda embarrassing, but here you go ...



I've gained about 20 lbs. since October, and where my chest used to measure somewhere between a 36 and a 38, it now measures more like 38.5". And my waist has expanded, too ... shog[1].gif

Needless to say, I'm going with a 38S.

Two more observations on these jackets:
  • The brown plaid I'm wearing is fantastic--beautiful fabric with a great hand and nice weight to the cloth.
  • They come with hefty eHaberdasher wooden hangers. Nice touch.

Thanks for sharing. I'll be honest, but this one looks better to me. The waist does need to be let out; but the chest and shoulders look better to me compared to the 38S, which is surprising to me. Not sure how much of that is camera angle though.
post #3172 of 3611

I would also agree if a modern silhoutte is what you are after.  The 38 looks big up top.  

 

Certainly let out the midsection on the 36S.  Could even try a 36R.  

 

 

What is your actual chest and shoulder measurement?

post #3173 of 3611

According to the website this jacket is available in 34R but that size isn’t listed in the measurements table.  Anyone know what the measurements are?

 

http://ehaberdasher.com/index.php/clothing/sport-jackets/bella-spalla-sport-coat-blue-windowpane.html

 

Thanks.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

post #3174 of 3611
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Originally Posted by Sudonihm View Post

Yes, please. Could the navy hopsack be made up into trousers for a Bella spalla suit? This one: http://ehaberdasher.com/index.php/benjamin-bella-spalla-sport-coat-pre-order-5472.html.

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Originally Posted by ja1171 View Post

I second the motion on the blue hopsack trousers. While I'm a little back and forth on the coat alone, I'd be tempted to pull the trigger if I could get matching pants for a summer casual suit.

Okay I'll cut some of the navy hopsack trousers. What size do you guys want in particular? I'll probably only cut 32 - 34 - 36 - 38 unless you guys need a different size. Let me know asap.
post #3175 of 3611
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Originally Posted by thisfits View Post

So this is kinda embarrassing, but here you go ...



I've gained about 20 lbs. since October, and where my chest used to measure somewhere between a 36 and a 38, it now measures more like 38.5". And my waist has expanded, too ... shog[1].gif

Needless to say, I'm going with a 38S.

Two more observations on these jackets:
  • The brown plaid I'm wearing is fantastic--beautiful fabric with a great hand and nice weight to the cloth.
  • They come with hefty eHaberdasher wooden hangers. Nice touch.

A. how does the jacket feel in the chest and particularly under the armpits? It's clear that the mid-section is quite tight. As both jackets are straight out of the box and not altered or anything I wonder if the 38S is still better after having a little nip/tuck done?

Regarding the length it does look like it is a little short - is this photo taken from the same angle as the 38S pic? Although the cut of the trousers you're wearing with the 36S also doesn't help with the overall appearance in comparison to the more fitted jeans you're wearing with the 38S.
post #3176 of 3611
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Originally Posted by Academic2 View Post

According to the website this jacket is available in 34R but that size isn’t listed in the measurements table.  Anyone know what the measurements are?

http://ehaberdasher.com/index.php/clothing/sport-jackets/bella-spalla-sport-coat-blue-windowpane.html

Thanks.

Cheers,

Ac

Yes that is a 34R. I'll get the measurements on that to you asap and posted on the site. Thanks for pointing that out.
post #3177 of 3611
@eHaberdasher, size 32 for me. Thanks!
post #3178 of 3611
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Originally Posted by eHaberdasher View Post

Actually both grey hopsack and taupe wool/mohair go well with the Zegna check
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90% wool 10% mohair would be great. I have something in a similar blend and weight, and when I wear it, I basically feel like I'm not wearing pants.

 

Very nice colour. But too close to something I already have. Will be in for the Coffee fresco in 36. Everyone keeps going on and on about fresco, so this is my chance to try it out without spending 1.5K+ to buy cloth from the B&S section and have a tailor  make a full suit.

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Thanks for sharing. I'll be honest, but this one looks better to me. The waist does need to be let out; but the chest and shoulders look better to me compared to the 38S, which is surprising to me. Not sure how much of that is camera angle though.

 

@thisfits I agree with Facet... :hide:  @eHaberdasher, are there allowances to let out this newer model? If I were to order one I might size down because I'm losing weight, slightly smaller shoulders would be better, and with the increased and waist ease a 40r might work better for me that the 42r. 

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Okay I'll cut some of the navy hopsack trousers. What size do you guys want in particular? I'll probably only cut 32 - 34 - 36 - 38 unless you guys need a different size. Let me know asap.

I thought the consensus in the Unfunded liabilities thread was that hopsack won't hold a crease. Is that right?

 

Ben, how formal does the Zegna navy fabric look in person? The blend sounds ideal for HOT days. I'm trying to get a feel for whether this would be a more formal jacket that I could wear to meetings, etc, since I already have a very informal navy summer jacket. If I were to order one of these in both the 42r and 40r, could I return the one that doesn't fit as well? It should be an easy sell for you, based on the comments in this thread.

 

I'm full of questions today, apparently.

post #3179 of 3611
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Originally Posted by scatterbrain

@thisfits
 I agree with Facet... peepwall%5B1%5D.gif  @eHaberdasher
, are there allowances to let out this newer model? If I were to order one I might size down because I'm losing weight, slightly smaller shoulders would be better, and with the increased and waist ease a 40r might work better for me that the 42r. 
I thought the consensus in the Unfunded liabilities thread was that hopsack won't hold a crease. Is that right?

Ben, how formal does the Zegna navy fabric look in person? The blend sounds ideal for HOT days. I'm trying to get a feel for whether this would be a more formal jacket that I could wear to meetings, etc, since I already have a very informal navy summer jacket. If I were to order one of these in both the 42r and 40r, could I return the one that doesn't fit as well? It should be an easy sell for you, based on the comments in this thread.

I'm full of questions today, apparently.

Yes there is allowance to let out but not a whole lot - same as before. That's why they made the jacket a little fuller overall in the waist and chest because they didn't want to mess too much with the exposed inside since it's unlined and would ruin the aesthetic. They said for fully lined jackets we can do more allowance but not for the quarter lined.

Yes you can order both 40 and 42 - but don't tell anyone I'm giving you special privileges! wink.gif

I also am not sure on the navy hopsack, but I'm willing to give them a try unless others have had bad experience with the fabric as trousers?
Edited by eHaberdasher - 5/13/16 at 7:26am
post #3180 of 3611
I own 5 pairs of merino wool hopsack trousers and they are not prone to wrinkling. Hopsack is a weaving method, I think, and the fabric is more important to wear than the fact that it is a hopsack weave. Hopsack is more prone to snagging but I haven't had any issues with any of my pants.

As you can tell, I am a big fan of hopsack.
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