Trip to Indianapolis

Duveen · Dec 12, 2004

Hi all,

I will be in Indianapolis for several days on business and was wondering if anyone had recommendations.

I know that johnapril had mentioned Raleigh's in a previous post. Is that downtown near the convention center or out in another part of town?

I'd also appreciate any suggestions for food in the downtown area.

Thanks in advance.

drizzt3117 · Dec 12, 2004

I'd check out St. Elmo's downtown... pretty good food in my experience.

JleC · Dec 12, 2004

I'll second St. Elmo's

As far as shopping goes, there is "Raleigh's", or something like that at the Fashion Mall at Keystone Crossing (north side). It is an upscale mens store. Saks is in the same mall. If you are coming from the South and will head through Bloomington, I'd recomend J.R Stallsmith.

johnapril · Dec 13, 2004

there is "Raleigh's", or something like that

Raleigh Limited, a men's store at the Fashion Mall, Keystone at the Crossing (317-580-7050), has been in business for over 30 years. Mark Koplow is the owner. He can set you up with MTM Zegna, Kiton, Armani, Brioni, etc. Currently there are a few suits by Isaia and a healthy stock of Seraphin shearlings, the designer of Hermes leathers. Borrelli shirts, Cucinelli and Malo sweaters. Nice selection of ties. Bring money.

johnapril · Dec 13, 2004

I'll second St. Elmo's

As far as shopping goes, there is "Raleigh's", or something like that at Â the Fashion Mall at Keystone Crossing (north side). Â It is an upscale mens store. Â Saks is in the same mall. Â If you are coming from the South and will head through Bloomington, I'd recomend J.R Stallsmith.

Saks is a B store at best, and it will depress you with its fused Burberry, Z-Zegna, and sad racks of Hield and E-Zegna. Also, a pathetic rack of model 14 Canalis, for those who still like eighties padded shoulders.

J.R. Stallsmith, if you have to, on the way back. In Bloomington I would only shop for books (e.g., Caveat Emptor), across from J.R. Stallsmith, Indiana's corner shop of fused suiting.

For dinner downtown:

Mikato
St. Elmo's
Agio

johnw86 · Dec 13, 2004

St. Elmos--great old steakhouse.

Stereojeff · Dec 13, 2004

If you go to Raleigh's, I recommend Sullivan's Restaurant. In my opiinion, it's far superior to St. Elmos. \t

Sullivan's of Indianapolis
3316 East 86th Street
Indianapolis, IN 46240
(317) 580-1280

Jeff

johnapril · Dec 13, 2004

If you go to Raleigh's, I recommend Sullivan's Restaurant. Â In my opiinion, it's far superior to St. Elmos. Â \t

Sullivan's of Indianapolis
3316 East 86th Street
Indianapolis, IN 46240
(317) 580-1280

Jeff

If there's any more room on your credit cards.

haoshcn · Dec 13, 2004

Shopping in Indianapolis?. Â To me this city is a nightmare in terms of fashion shopping. Â The only things I have bought here so far are a pair of sketchers shoes I bought in Â Nordstrom when I first came here for school 2 years ago, two Paul Frank t-shirts and a pair of gloves also in Nordstrom last year, and definitely nothing more than those.

I have been to that Raleigh's for once or twice; I am not the kind of people who wear Brioni or Sartoria Attonlini, therefore I can't make judgement on their selection of conservative style, but the selection of Etro and one or two other similiar brands are really not so appealing, just so much like what you find in those so-called contemporary designers' section of Neiman Marcus.

I am not an American, therefore I proabably shouldn't comment on Americans' taste for clothes in Midwest. Â But to be frank, it's really not so interesting. Â The Barneys store in Chicago, they don't even have Comme des Garcons, not even the shirt line from CdG. Â

There's one time I wore a pair of Eley Kishimoto sneakers which have very nice and interesting prints. Â Then lots of people in the school and on the streets stared at me or my sneakers like I were E.T. Â

I am so drepressed and miss New York so much. Â My Balenciaga heavy wool tweed pants. Â Why didn't I buy them when I was there. :-(

Sorry if this message offends people in Indianapolis or even in Midwest America. Â I guess I just ended up at a wrong place for school.

johnapril · Dec 14, 2004

Shopping in Indianapolis?. Â To me this city is a nightmare in terms of fashion shopping. Â The only things I have bought here so far are a pair of sketchers shoes I bought in Â Nordstrom when I first came here for school 2 years ago, two Paul Frank t-shirts and a pair of gloves also in Nordstrom last year, and definitely nothing more than those.

I have been to that Raleigh's for once or twice; I am not the kind of people who wear Brioni or Sartoria Attonlini, therefore I can't make judgement on their selection of conservative style, but the selection of Etro and one or two other similiar brands are really not so appealing, just so much like what you find in those so-called contemporary designers' section of Neiman Marcus.

I am not an American, therefore I proabably shouldn't comment on Americans' taste for clothes in Midwest. Â But to be frank, it's really not so interesting. Â The Barneys store in Chicago, they don't even have Comme des Garcons, not even the shirt line from CdG. Â

There's one time I wore a pair of Eley Kishimoto sneakers which have very nice and interesting prints. Â Then lots of people in the school and on the streets stared at me or my sneakers like I were E.T. Â

I am so drepressed and miss New York so much. Â My Balenciaga heavy wool tweed pants. Â Why didn't I buy them when I was there.

Sorry if this message offends people in Indianapolis or even in Midwest America. Â I guess I just ended up at a wrong place for school.

Arise from your depression, young Jedi. Â You have come to the perfect place for school.

When I was in college the last thing I concerned myself with was clothing. Â I mean, have things changed in college so much since 1991, or was I completely out of it? Â Sweats and jeans and a cup of coffee or a beer, man. Â I never even knew about all this fashion/suit crap until about 10 years after college, after traveling and working shetty jobs and about five crazy relationships.

It is not a student's job to shop for fancy clothing. Â The best girls (the ones with imagination in bed who can talk and can tear you away from utter self-absorption) like guys for whom a sweatshirt and Levis are good enough.

You are not supposed to go in to Raleigh Limited. Â Get away from there. Â What are you thinking? Â Out. Â Away. Â Go. Â Study. Â Learn stuff. Â Make things. Â Connect with your comrades, your women, not salespeople, not yourself in front of a mirror.

You are about to enter the coldest world you cannot even possibly begin to imagine, complete with a car payment and a commute and a cubical and a little flourescent lamp and an administrative assistant who pops bubble gum all day while listening to Q-95, and you're concerned about the freakin' selection of Etro in Indianapolis? Â My god. Â What a complete waste of time.

Look, look. Â Go audit a science class and pick up on one of the women in there.

No, no, wait. Â Go take your sneaker money and head to a salon in Broad Ripple and ask a stylist out to coffee.

No, no, wait. Â Go take your Etro money and use it to fly to Bangkok...

No, no, wait

johnapril · Dec 14, 2004

The Barneys store in Chicago, they don't even have Comme des Garcons, not even the shirt line from CdG. Â

Actually, they do. But not for you. Now, go read what I wrote to you before. Again.

haoshcn · Dec 14, 2004

To this guy whose name is John from Indianapolis

Do you think I am an American teenager going to college in Indianapolis? Â You are totally wrong. Â I am a 30 years old foreign Ph.D. student at IU medical school. Â I don't have much income from my research work, but it's definitely enough for me to fly to New York to shop at Barneys once or twice a year because I don't waste my money on those ugly things like SUV.

Indianapolis is one of the worst places for going to school in this country. Â The undergraduate school of IUPUI's ranking in the US is lower than 150, and during a whole calendar year, the whole IU medical school may not even have a single publication in leading scientific journals like "Nature" or "Science". Â But most importantly to me, this is such a culturally dull, insular, and Â backward place (sorry to use such negative words, but it's the truth), and people's attitude toward clothes is one of the very good evidence.

Nobody around me here in Indianapolis care about even great American Â minds like John Rawls or Susan Sontag, let alone French ones. Â Nobody here is interested in Balenciaga, Yohji, or Dries. Â If I had known it's such a place before I accpeted the scholarship and admission from our school 3 years ago in my home country, I would definitely NOT have accepted it.

I don't know which kind of people you are, and what you do in Indianapolis, but I'll give you some advice, never rush to criticise against and preach upon other people about whom you don't even know anything. Â I am wise, intelligent, mature, well-read, well-educated and sophisticated enough to know what are or aren't the right things to do in my personal life.

johnapril · Dec 14, 2004

To this guy whose name is John from Indianapolis

Do you think I am an American teenager going to college in Indianapolis? Â You are totally wrong. Â I am a 30 years old foreign Ph.D. student at IU medical school. Â I don't have much income from my research work, but it's definitely enough for me to fly to New York to shop at Barneys once or twice a year because I don't waste my money on those ugly things like SUV.

Indianapolis is one of the worst places for going to school in this country. Â The undergraduate school of IUPUI's ranking in the US is lower than 150, and during a whole calendar year, the whole IU medical school may not even have a single publication in leading scientific journals like "Nature" or "Science". Â But most importantly to me, this is such a culturally dull, insular, and Â backward place (sorry to use such negative words, but it's the truth), and people's attitude toward clothes is one of the very good evidence.

Nobody around me here in Indianapolis care about even great American Â minds like John Rawls or Susan Sontag, let alone French ones. Â Nobody here is interested in Balenciaga, Yohji, or Dries. Â If I had known it's such a place before I accpeted the scholarship and admission from our school 3 years ago in my home country, I would definitely NOT have accepted it.

I don't know which kind of people you are, and what you do in Indianapolis, but I'll give you some advice, never rush to criticise against and preach upon other people about whom you don't even know anything. Â I am wise, intelligent, mature, well-read, well-educated and sophisticated enough to know what are or aren't the right things to do in my personal life.

Dude, chill. You're gonna end up a Unabomber with that outlook. You're in one of the best medical schools in the country. Study, get your degree, then get your ass out of here if you don't like it.

haoshcn · Dec 14, 2004

To John again

I don't mean to be rude, but I don't like people pretend to know something they don't know. Â Barneys Chicago doesn't have anything for men from Comme des Garcons, nothing from any particular line. Â I went to that store in July and also two weeks before Thanksgiving this year, there's NOTHING from CdG for men, and the sales associate told me they hadn't carried Cdg for men for two years. Â Saks on N Michigan Ave had several CdG Shirt line items when I was there in November, but the selection was definitely unimpressive, it's the problem of either the buyer's taste or the customers they tried to cater to.

Again, I don't mean to offend anyboby, just want to point out the truth. Â

And again, I am not a native English speaker, it's never a shame for me if I occasionally make some mistakes in grammar or spelling. Â With a GRE score of 2180 out of 2400 full score, and TOEFL score of 653 out of 677 full score, there'll never be any chance for me to feel ashamed about my linguistic knowledge of English.

Please don't send those secretive messages to me, they are not welcome.

johnapril · Dec 14, 2004

To John again

I don't mean to be rude, but I don't like people pretend to know something they don't know. Â Barneys Chicago doesn't have anything for men from Comme des Garcons, nothing from any particular line. Â I went to that store in July and also two weeks before Thanksgiving this year, there's NOTHING from CdG for men, and the sales associate told me they hadn't carried Cdg for men for two years. Â Saks on N Michigan Ave had several CdG Shirt line items when I was there in November, but the selection was definitely unimpressive, it's the problem of either the buyer's taste or the customers they tried to cater to.

Again, I don't mean to offend anyboby, just want to point out the truth. Â

And again, I am not a native English speaker, it's never a shame for me if I occasionally make some mistakes in grammar or spelling. Â With a GRE score of 2180 out of 2400 full score, and TOEFL score of 653 out of 677 full score, there'll never be any chance for me to feel ashamed about my linguistic knowledge of English.

Please don't send those secretive messages to me, they are not welcome.

I saw a CdG Shirt on a member of the Barney's cleaning staff. Pretty sure, dude. Pretty sure he bought it there. Pretty pretty.

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