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"High Intensity" Exercise: First Attempt Made Me Ill. Advice?

post #1 of 15
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Hello there. Sorry to be a bit gross, there - but my body's reaction to the high intensity workout took me completely by surprise, and I'm not sure exactly what I ought to do differently while still maintaining the level of intensity required.

My weight's been yo-yoing for years, and after reading some posts here and some articles elsewhere online, the high intensity regimen seemed the smartest course of action: one day of weight lifting until muscle failure, high weight, low reps, one set, and then a day of rest, and then several days of high-intensity aerobic workout to keep my metabolism at furnace-like efficiency.

I opted to wait until Monday to begin the lifting, and start the high-intensity aerobics today. Got on the rowing machine, went at it as hard as I could manage, and after three and a half minutes couldn't stand another pull. I was frustrated that I hadn't lasted the 10 minutes minimum required (according to the articles that I'd read) and so I hopped onto the elliptical machine, thinking it would be easier to keep my heart rate up without being so hard on my back as the rowing machine had been. I managed only one minute on it, again going full tilt, before I had to stop.

I had anticipated that I'd be panting like a fish out of water, which I was - but then there came, suddenly and surprisingly, severe nausea, and, after a drink of water failed to subdue it, its ineluctable result (thankfully, in the restroom.)

I had eaten only a small amount of food, more than thirty minutes prior: a single tortilla (not greasy in the slightest) a handful of pure cacao (not cocoa) and but one almond. I probably could've hydrated myself a little better, but about thirty minutes before consuming the food I had drank a glass of lowfat milk with my morning vitamins.

Is this just a normal reaction to exercise for a body so out-of-shape as my own? Or did I do something incorrectly? Should I eat absolutely nothing for hours before exercising, contrary to what I've read about "fueling up?" Or should I have "warmed up" - and, if so, how to do that without derailing the fundamental aim of high-intensity to shock my metabolism into high gear?

I haven't much of a clue when it comes to exercise, and the staff at my gym push the "slow and steady" policy, which has simply failed me, and so their advice of just not exercising that thoroughly seemed not to square with the more intense philosophy that is working wonders for so many men now.

I realize how silly this is and recognize that I deserve more than a few jokes at my expense, so feel free to loose the slings and arrows - but do try to be a little helpful, if you feel you can be.

Thanks.
post #2 of 15
I'm not even close to an expert on fitness, but high intensity training (from what I understand) is all about keeping your heart rate high for prolonged periods of time.

Personally, I try to stay between 160 and 180 beats per minute. But I never start my exercises by going all out. A few minutes of warm up and then gradually reach my peak heart rate and hold it for 20-25 minutes.
post #3 of 15
I've experienced nausea after an intense set of squats. Not fun at all.
post #4 of 15
for one thing you shouldnt eat for atleast 3 hours before your work out. 30 minutes is way too close to your workout to be eating. also high intensity does not mean all out to the point of complete fatigue. it means going your hardest but being able to keep the pace for a certain amount of time. or intervals where you go very hard but rest and go at it again. for a begginer this can cause you to feel nautious. and you shouldnt do the all out thing unless youre properly warmed up, because it will definately lead to injury etc. ive fealt like throwing up when i used to play high level basketball, and some gyms had no air conditioning, with windows that would let the sun in on a 35 degree day in the summer. it was terrible.
post #5 of 15
2 to 3 rolaids prior to a heavy leg workout does the trick for me. You shouldn't eat probably an 1 hour prior and a protein/carb shake will digest much faster than say a chicken sandwich. Nausea is not an unusual side effect. Usually after about 2 to 3 weeks your body adapts and improves therefore you will not experience Nausea anymore. Also, an OTC pain reliever like Aleve can help for challenging workouts.
post #6 of 15
High Intensity exercise is an excellent way to get/stay in shape. It also does it in much less time than the typical 1-1.5 hr per day routine. Most of my workouts last no longer than 25 minutes, but it's 25 minutes of hell. When I'm finished, my hands are on my knees and I'm hufing and puffing. Gets a lot of strange looks from roid boy talking on his cell phone between sets of bench presses.

However, it is tough on your system and takes a while to build up to. Work into it gradually. What you did is akin to jumping on a quickly moving treadmill.

You might want to check out www.crossfit.com It sounds like what you're looking for. Take the cult-like mantra with a grain of salt, but it is an excellent way to get fit.
post #7 of 15
if I might suggest - spend one month getting your body used to the idea of excersizing at all - consider it laying the foundation. you may never do anything at all that uses the muscles that you use in rowing, for instance. I find that when I row I can only do a few minutes the first day and then can build up to 45 minutes or so within a few weeks. you won't do yourself any good if you hurt yourself.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post
if I might suggest - spend one month getting your body used to the idea of excersizing at all - consider it laying the foundation. you may never do anything at all that uses the muscles that you use in rowing, for instance. I find that when I row I can only do a few minutes the first day and then can build up to 45 minutes or so within a few weeks. you won't do yourself any good if you hurt yourself.

I agree with this. From what I've seen from high intensity exercise (mostly HIIT), I think you have to be at least in decent shape to start with to do it right. Going from a sedentary lifestyle to intense exercise isn't going to work for most people.

BTW, getting nauseous after working out happens sometimes. On leg days, I'm occasionally seen hugging my knees with my eyes closed trying to keep everything down.
post #9 of 15
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I agree with this. From what I've seen from high intensity exercise (mostly HIIT), I think you have to be at least in decent shape to start with to do it right. Going from a sedentary lifestyle to intense exercise isn't going to work for most people.


Werd.

As I've heard it put - HIIT is just stepping up your baseline training a few notches, at an intensity where you can sustain an effort for the required duration.

So, let's say I can run 3 miles at 8 minute/mile pace - that's baseline.

HIIT has me running quarter-mile intervals at roughly 6:00 pace, or faster if I can sustain that pace through the quarter mile. If I'm feeling strong, it might be closer to 5:00 pace, but not so fast that I'm struggling to finish the interval.

Even though this is interval training, you still have to pace yourself to complete the interval.
post #10 of 15
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Werd.

As I've heard it put - HIIT is just stepping up your baseline training a few notches, at an intensity where you can sustain an effort for the required duration.

So, let's say I can run 3 miles at 8 minute/mile pace - that's baseline.

HIIT has me running quarter-mile intervals at roughly 6:00 pace, or faster if I can sustain that pace through the quarter mile. If I'm feeling strong, it might be closer to 5:00 pace, but not so fast that I'm struggling to finish the interval.

Even though this is interval training, you still have to pace yourself to complete the interval.

hey is you can run 3 miles in 24 minutes, that is a great baseline. my assumption was that the OP wasn't yet at that point.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by Thomas View Post
Werd.

As I've heard it put - HIIT is just stepping up your baseline training a few notches, at an intensity where you can sustain an effort for the required duration.

So, let's say I can run 3 miles at 8 minute/mile pace - that's baseline.

HIIT has me running quarter-mile intervals at roughly 6:00 pace, or faster if I can sustain that pace through the quarter mile. If I'm feeling strong, it might be closer to 5:00 pace, but not so fast that I'm struggling to finish the interval.

Even though this is interval training, you still have to pace yourself to complete the interval.

Sounds more like interval training. HIIT stands for high-intensity interval training. Usually this means a level challenging enough that you will exhaust yourself in 20 minutes (including rest time inbetween).

To be fair, it depends on person. I remember reading somewhere that you're an experience runner, so I'd imagine a 5:00 pace isn't that big of a deal to you. To, say, the OP, not so much.
post #12 of 15
Gents - My bad. The point was less a matter of the actual numbers and more the percentages.

A better way to put it might be: for intervals, I run around 25% -33% faster than I do for base training. So, if you run 12 minute miles, you scale down to 9 minute-paced quaters (or 2:15), or faster if you feel stronger, so long as you can hold your pace throughout the interval. Really the last sentence is key to any sort of interval training IMHO.

The OP gassed out before coming to the end, and the question becomes - how productive was that, compared to a complete interval at a lower pace? Even sprinters don't train like that, because utter exhaustion puts you into too deep a hole to recuperate for tomorrow's training.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by whacked View Post
Sounds more like interval training. HIIT stands for high-intensity interval training. Usually this means a level challenging enough that you will exhaust yourself in 20 minutes (including rest time inbetween).

To be fair, it depends on person. I remember reading somewhere that you're an experience runner, so I'd imagine a 5:00 pace isn't that big of a deal to you. To, say, the OP, not so much.

Well, you have a point there with the high-intensity, although IHMO it's a matter of degrees, because interval training in general is supposed to be training that you can't sustain over a long session. I can run base pace for hours, but 5:00 pace is reserved for quarter-miles only, and not many at that. 20 minutes of 5:00 pace is simply out of the question on my best day, but in 1:15 chunks, it's tolerable for a little while, once I adjust to it.
post #14 of 15
It's hormonal and has to do with blood sugar.

You'll be fine after two weeks of pushing yourself.
post #15 of 15
I'd agree that you'll get used to the workouts after some time. But if you decide to row then you may want to do steady state work to get your body up to speed, say 2 sets of 10 min work... You will gain strength quick. If you row on a concept 2 ergometer goal at sub 2:30/500m pace at the 2 by 10 mins.

Going all out on a rowing machine is probably a bad choice for someone in bad shape because it does beat the shit out of you quick. Also be heads up on form... when you get tired your posture and form will drop and put terrible strain on your back.. always be sure to keep your back and shoulders up and straight. So work on form first and allow the strength to follow if you don't want to injure your back.
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