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post #106 of 162
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Originally Posted by Fishball View Post

I think the full canvass they are talking about is just putting a piece of canvas in, no shaping at the chest, no padding at lapel. facepalm.gif

I think if HK$200 to HK$400 extra, it is hard to believe they can offer hand sticih canvass, hand padding at lapel and back collar. Just few things need over 10 hours of high skill craftsmanship.
post #107 of 162
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Originally Posted by Classic Car View Post

I think if HK$200 to HK$400 extra, it is hard to believe they can offer hand sticih canvass, hand padding at lapel and back collar. Just few things need over 10 hours of high skill craftsmanship.
Over 10 hours? Who tell you so?
High skill? Really?
post #108 of 162
Most of the chest piece and collar used in HK are machine stitched. I think it take about an hour and a half to two hours to make.
post #109 of 162
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Over 10 hours? Who tell you so?
High skill? Really?

Yes, for hand sticih base canvass minimum 6 hours, + hand sticih chest piece, a couple of hours, hand padded lapel and collar takes over two hours. . If you buy machine sew rtw canvass, it can be faster. I do not know it is high skill or not but only old tailors do it.

How long do your tailors finish above jobs?
post #110 of 162
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Originally Posted by Fishball View Post

Most of the chest piece and collar used in HK are machine stitched. I think it take about an hour and a half to two hours to make.

That is why Simpson Sin ask HK$200 to HK$400 more. I am not talking about low end full canvass. I am talking about high end full canvass jacket. As I said before a good suit is not distinguish by fuse or canvass BUT many many factors.
post #111 of 162
Seriously, Classic Car and Fishball O urge you guys to post some fit pics.
post #112 of 162
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Seriously, Classic Car and Fishball O urge you guys to post some fit pics.

hahaha, I am not interesed to show myself in the forum rotflmao.gif
post #113 of 162
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Originally Posted by Classic Car View Post

Yes, for hand sticih base canvass minimum 6 hours, + hand sticih chest piece, a couple of hours, hand padded lapel and collar takes over two hours. . If you buy machine sew rtw canvass, it can be faster. I do not know it is high skill or not but only old tailors do it.

How long do your tailors finish above jobs?

What is "hand sticih base canvass"? Do you really know how a suit was constructed? revolve.gif

For my poor english, "Yes, for hand sticih base canvass minimum 6 hours, + hand sticih chest piece, a couple of hours", I understand that you mean the "base canvass" need min. 6 hours to hand stitch, then the "chest piece", a couple of hour," so you mean that the two was done seperately.

If you don't know how the canvas are constructed, go to watch the Rory Duffy video, please!
Edited by Fishball - 4/10/14 at 6:37pm
post #114 of 162
I have learned tailoring for several years and no, padding the chestpiece/domette/canvas plus the lapels and collar takes much less than 10 hrs for a skilled person. More like 1.5hrs for the canvas (plus some time for cutting and basting), 1-2hrs for the lapel (depends on size and roll length) and halfn hour for the collar. The most time consuming (and difficult) thing I would say is setting the sleeves properly rather than the canvas.
post #115 of 162
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Originally Posted by Fishball View Post

What is "hand sticih base canvass"? Do you really know how a suit was constructed? revolve.gif

For my poor english, "Yes, for hand sticih base canvass minimum 6 hours, + hand sticih chest piece, a couple of hours", I understand that you mean the "base canvass" need min. 6 hours to hand stitch, then the "chest piece", a couple of hour," so you mean that the two was done seperately.

If you don't know how the canvas are constructed, go to watch the Rory Duffy video, please!

Fish,

First of all, I am not an author to write a textbook. I am not a tailor too, my carerra is in scientific intruments industry. I cannot describe everything in full details. One master cutter/ tailor is working in my shop upstairs. He has around 60 years of experience in men's tailoring. I had seen a suit from cut to finish including pressing several times. How about you?
post #116 of 162
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I have learned tailoring for several years and no, padding the chestpiece/domette/canvas plus the lapels and collar takes much less than 10 hrs for a skilled person. More like 1.5hrs for the canvas (plus some time for cutting and basting), 1-2hrs for the lapel (depends on size and roll length) and halfn hour for the collar. The most time consuming (and difficult) thing I would say is setting the sleeves properly rather than the canvas.

Different schools have different ways to make a jacket. Shanghai school and Canton school construction differently. For example of constucting the back collar, Canton school have the fabric and canvass together, then attach it , Shanghai school attach the canvass first and then the fabric, almost double the work and time. I do not think it is possible to finish a jacket (Baramon way, typical Shanghai school) at your above time.
post #117 of 162
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Originally Posted by Classic Car View Post

Different schools have different ways to make a jacket. Shanghai school and Canton school construction differently. For example of constucting the back collar, Canton school have the fabric and canvass together, then attach it , Shanghai school attach the canvass first and then the fabric, almost double the work and time. I do not think it is possible to finish a jacket (Baramon way, typical Shanghai school) at your above time.

I think it is more up to the method used by the workshop. The distinction between canton and shanghi is very biased.

Thats probably something clients buy into.
post #118 of 162
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Originally Posted by Classic Car View Post

Fish,

First of all, I am not an author to write a textbook. I am not a tailor too, my carerra is in scientific intruments industry. I cannot describe everything in full details. One master cutter/ tailor is working in my shop upstairs. He has around 60 years of experience in men's tailoring. I had seen a suit from cut to finish including pressing several times. How about you?

Hahaha! I know who is in your upstairs.
I just asking you what is " hand sticih base canvass" you are talking about?
Just tell pals here what you saw then.
I want to learn how this " hand sticih base canvass" need 6 hrs to do.
Hahaha!
Wish you really know what you are talking about.
And go, go ask your tailor upstairs demo once for you the " hand sticih base canvass"
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post #119 of 162
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Originally Posted by Classic Car View Post

Fish,

First of all, I am not an author to write a textbook. I am not a tailor too, my carerra is in scientific intruments industry. I cannot describe everything in full details. One master cutter/ tailor is working in my shop upstairs. He has around 60 years of experience in men's tailoring. I had seen a suit from cut to finish including pressing several times. How about you?

Car,

Twenty plus years ago, when I still studied high school, I worked few months in my brother's shop as a locksmith. His shop nearby had many tailor shops. I went one of them everyday, since the owner was a good friend of my brother. I had seen many suits from cut to finish, mant times, included two of my suits made there.
Other than that I had been in many workshop and back rooms of the tailor shops, to see sifu cut the suits and make the suits when I finish my studies in States.

So, what is your question?
post #120 of 162
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Originally Posted by Fishball View Post

Car,

Twenty plus years ago, when I still studied high school, I worked few months in my brother's shop as a locksmith. His shop nearby had many tailor shops. I went one of them everyday, since the owner was a good friend of my brother. I had seen many suits from cut to finish, mant times, included two of my suits made there.
Other than that I had been in many workshop and back rooms of the tailor shops, to see sifu cut the suits and make the suits when I finish my studies in States.

So, what is your question?

No more.

As I said, I cannot explain everything in fine details every time. I do not prepare to have people of every level to understand. Some beginners may think too difficult, some expertise like seems not satisfactory. There is no fix rule. Do not ask me any too sharp questions, Sometimes it is difficult to answer in words. You can come and ask sifu in person. Also sifu had introudced a tailor who worked for bararmon and A man before who is station in central as an in house tailor now. You can visit him and ask him specific questions about how a coat is made by Baramon or A-man.
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