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post #106 of 295
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Originally Posted by mlyngard View Post
All the e-tailers carrying Skulls have size charts showing tagged waist size and real as-measured size. When you say "Get the size that is your natural waist", do you mean the measured or tagged size? It's a critical one-inch difference... (My Skulls are arriving next week so I'm more than curious if I sized right...I guess the proof's in the puddin' though...)
I mean tagged. I had a hard time to button mine up at 29, and if I sit cross-legged on the floor, it isn't something I can sustain very long. Otherwise, after over a month they've stretched out to be comfortable in almost any other posture. In other words, I probably should have stayed the same size as my Levi 501s that I got a while ago (30). also love the anal chemist
post #107 of 295
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Originally Posted by mlyngard View Post
+1...really helpful - thanks. I've found with many of my other raw denim that I may get as much as 2" stretch vs. maybe less than .5" shrinkage if the denim is raw and sanforized.

I know we could write an encyclopoedia on the topic, but you're saying that the manufacturer's tagged (true) size should be what I would expect after all stretch and shrinkage is done?
i think you're mixing it up. manufacturer's tagged is not always true__ sometimes sizing vary even by production lot# [eg, s710 lot 10]. that's why when you ask ppl here about sizing and the consensus is to go true to size [TTS], it means exactly how it sounds. if you normally wear a 32 then you get a tagged W32. some ppl tweak it by sizing down or up, based on fit preference.

however, if advised to size down 2 or 3 on a particular model/lot to compensate [eg, WH Doubleworks 660], you need to get a tagged W29 or W30 (respectively) to arrive at your size [if you're a true 32]. hope that made it clearer.
post #108 of 295
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Originally Posted by IIIrd Icon View Post
i think you're mixing it up. manufacturer's tagged is not always true__ sometimes sizing vary even by production lot# [eg, s710 lot 10]. that's why when you ask ppl here about sizing and the consensus is to go true to size [TTS], it means exactly how it sounds. if you normally wear a 32 then you get a tagged W32. some ppl tweak it by sizing down or up, based on fit preference.

however, if advised to size down 2 or 3 on a particular model/lot to compensate [eg, WH Doubleworks 660], you need to get a tagged W29 or W30 (respectively) to arrive at your size [if you're a true 32]. hope that made it clearer.

Very clear IIIrd. Thanks.

Am so familiar now with the fitment of my favorites, I don't blink an eye, but you know how sizing on new stuff is...

For example, I just got a pair of Momtaros in measured size 31/tagged 30 (which should fit me snug but comfy) and those things are circulation-cutting bruisers. Top button is okay if I don't breathe or move. BiG said that's the draw and no exchange offered, which is fair since they hemmed them for me prior to delivery. Note: BiG hemming is bitchin' good.

Anywhoo, just goes to show ya to either try on before ordering what you think it your real size, or get some stretch/shrinkage advice from those with experience in the jeans here n SF.
post #109 of 295
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Originally Posted by aeglus View Post
I mean tagged. I had a hard time to button mine up at 29, and if I sit cross-legged on the floor, it isn't something I can sustain very long. Otherwise, after over a month they've stretched out to be comfortable in almost any other posture. In other words, I probably should have stayed the same size as my Levi 501s that I got a while ago (30).

also love the anal chemist

Can you give me an idea of how much stretch in the waist you got from new? 1"?
post #110 of 295
A question here. Don't know if this is the right place to post.

Is it advisable to size 1 down (tag size) from the natural waist on the 5010XX 6X6 raw? I know it is a skinny jean. Judging by the measurements availabe on BIG and the fact that they are sanforized, the shrinkage (in inches) is minimum (waist - 1, front and back rise -0.5, thigh and leg opening -0.25). But they will also stretch in the waist after wash/soak. For example, if I buy tag size 32 (waist 33) in raw, my natural waist size is 33, and I can fit into the jeans, how intolerable will it feel after it shrinks? The waist will always stretch, how about the rest of jeans?
post #111 of 295
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Originally Posted by ToruOkada View Post
Okay, here you all go. Shitty fit picture snapped just now.


Excuse the weird stance. Also, looks like something weird is going on in the crotch but believe me, that is usually not a problem and is due to the fact that I literally just threw them on real quick.

Thanks Toru. Nothing funny looking at all about the picture. Your response is almost like you're expecting to get flamed at any moment :-)
post #112 of 295
@omega__ yes, it's possible to size down 1 [from true] for a slimmer fit on these. just double check the leg measurement. if you got the raws, they will shrink a bit even on a cold soak. however, they will stretch back out easy. edit: if they're tight around the waist already even before the soak: warm soak below the top for about 45 mins then hang dry :: wet the top block with cold water while wearing and let dry on you.
post #113 of 295
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Originally Posted by IIIrd Icon View Post
@omega__ yes, it's possible to size down 1 [from true] for a slimmer fit on these. if you got the raws, they will shrink quiite a bit after soak. however, they will stretch back out easy.

I'm hoping the 2" stretch Toru notes in his post is true for me. That's what I'm hoping. It such a variable. I sized down one on a pair of Jean Shop and those suckers are baggy as hell now, so I'm inclined to be cautious and size down more than I predict I may need to.
post #114 of 295
^Skull denim in quite different from Jean Shop tho'.
post #115 of 295
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Originally Posted by IIIrd Icon View Post
^Skull denim in quite different from Jean Shop tho'.

Oh, I know...it was a tricky brand to lose my denim virginity to a while back. I've never had a pair stretch like my Jean Shops.

Just got the 5010 raw in today and am wearing them now. Very impressed. The tagged 30 is perfect, and the denim is outstanding. I'd place these close to Somets in terms of fit, without the 8.5" low rise.

My only gripe (and it's a small issue but a little on the painful side) - the rivets are like sharp little daggers. When I try and get my hand into the right pocket with the coin pocket, the rivets literally rip into my hand.

They might want to consider a rivet a little less 'nipple-like' ;-)

Other than that, these are pretty sweet and promise a nice break-in.
post #116 of 295
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Originally Posted by ToruOkada View Post
Okay, here you all go. Shitty fit picture snapped just now.


Excuse the weird stance. Also, looks like something weird is going on in the crotch but believe me, that is usually not a problem and is due to the fact that I literally just threw them on real quick.

Nice fit, and great work on those bean mocs they look great IMO.
post #117 of 295
Thanks for the kind words everyone. jesse - thanks about the beans too. I kicked those around all summer in Europe and they're looking really good now IMO. Might do a light polish on them sometime soon though.
post #118 of 295
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Originally Posted by mlyngard View Post
My only gripe (and it's a small issue but a little on the painful side) - the rivets are like sharp little daggers. When I try and get my hand into the right pocket with the coin pocket, the rivets literally rip into my hand. They might want to consider a rivet a little less 'nipple-like' ;-) Other than that, these are pretty sweet and promise a nice break-in.
you might want to consider a preventive stitch reinforcement on the front pockets cuz they're prone to thread breakage when too tight. of course, a lot prefer them threads dangling anyways.
post #119 of 295
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Originally Posted by mlyngard View Post
Can you give me an idea of how much stretch in the waist you got from new? 1"?

I can't measure now, but they stretched a lot. At least 2" if not more. I guess I can measure when I get home some time tomorrow.

I'll just say again, the top block of Skulls is very tight and you'll do your balls a favor if you go TTS. The seat is unforgiving if you have an ass.
post #120 of 295
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Originally Posted by aeglus View Post
I can't measure now, but they stretched a lot. At least 2" if not more. I guess I can measure when I get home some time tomorrow.

I'll just say again, the top block of Skulls is very tight and you'll do your balls a favor if you go TTS. The seat is unforgiving if you have an ass.

Waist seems to be perfect on these - already got a little stretch. You're right - the top block is pretty snug, even with little ass to speak of. I'm hoping and expecting enough eventually so these will be kinder. Pecker pinching has been the usual nuisiance.

They are fitting much like my Somets, and the cut of these Skulls is not unlike the APC NS. Snug in the hips at first, and defintely slim all the way down.

Did you notice much stretching on the top block, pockets and thighs on yours?
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