Originally Posted by IIIrd Icon
i think you're mixing it up. manufacturer's tagged is not always true__ sometimes sizing vary even by production lot# [eg, s710 lot 10]. that's why when you ask ppl here about sizing and the consensus is to go true to size [TTS], it means exactly how it sounds. if you normally wear a 32 then you get a tagged W32. some ppl tweak it by sizing down or up, based on fit preference.
however, if advised to size down 2 or 3 on a particular model/lot to compensate [eg, WH Doubleworks 660], you need to get a tagged W29 or W30 (respectively) to arrive at your size [if you're a true 32]. hope that made it clearer.
Very clear IIIrd. Thanks.
Am so familiar now with the fitment of my favorites, I don't blink an eye, but you know how sizing on new stuff is...
For example, I just got a pair of Momtaros in measured size 31/tagged 30 (which should fit me snug but comfy) and those things are circulation-cutting bruisers. Top button is okay if I don't breathe or move. BiG said that's the draw and no exchange offered, which is fair since they hemmed them for me prior to delivery. Note: BiG hemming is bitchin' good.
Anywhoo, just goes to show ya to either try on before ordering what you think it your real size, or get some stretch/shrinkage advice from those with experience in the jeans here n SF.