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post #46 of 168
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Originally Posted by Brad View Post
No offense, but that's sort of Miata territory. If I lived in your neck of the woods, I'd be glad to race you.


I don't race, I drive. My insurance is expensive enough without a reckless ticket. Oh, and the miata has about 140hp. I'm more in the Boxster/Cayman range (305bhp).

However, I didn't buy the SLK to race, I bought it because it has a power hardtop and enough HP to keep things fun for me, it is lighter than the SL, has a V6 rather than the gas-hungry V8 of the SLK-55, has features that I like, and is honestly the most thrilling car I have ever driven (for more reasons than speed). Obviously, there are faster cars on the road and that fact doesn't bother me a bit, nor do I care at all.

I enjoy driving up to Stevens Pass with my girlfriend, with the top down, at legal speeds (but barely). Last weekend, we drove across the pass and into the sun, listening to CDs and chatting, with the top down. It was a perfect day, and when an obviously turbo'd IS300 pulled up next to us wanting to race, I just smiled at the guy and waved. I'm busy enjoying the mountain views and listening to my girlfriend ramble on about Rimsky-Korsakov while her hair gets blown around by the wind.

There is only one car on the market like my SLK, and that is my SLK. And I love it. I'm really crazy about the car. My lifetime dream car has always been a 1974 Ferrari Dino 246GTS (red). But ya know, I don't think I would trade my SLK for that car. That's how happy I am with it.

Good on ya that you've got a badass in the garage. Hope you like it as much as I love my SLK, and perhaps I'll see ya up on a mountain pass some day.
post #47 of 168
For a fast Mercedes two-door, there was the odd 450SLC 5.0 or later 500SLC.

post #48 of 168
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Originally Posted by JayJay View Post
The LS430 (now 460) is a very nice car but it lacks the handling and road feel that you get while driving the Bentley and S-Class. I've driven all three and while I appreciate the quality of the Lexus, the car is boring to drive.

Agreed. I was really admiring the S-series when I bought my SLK, but didn't want the extra weight and the V8. This $4.60 gas is painful, man. But yeah, I test drove it and preferred it to my previous LS430 (did not test drive the LS460 because I was looking for something different).
post #49 of 168
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Originally Posted by LabelKing View Post
For a fast Mercedes two-door, there was the odd 450SLC 5.0 or later 500SLC.


In my mind, that is truly one of the most beautiful cars made. I love the older SLs, when they were still relatively light, and that vintage V8 had some guts. Of course, if we're going to talk classic SLs, you can't leave out the 300SL. In my mind, the most beautiful car ever designed (perhaps not, maybe it's a second to the Dino 246GTS, it's a hard call). The 300SL is coming back by the way. Dealership was telling me about it on my last visit, it looks to be a stunner.
post #50 of 168
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Originally Posted by linux_pro View Post
In my mind, that is truly one of the most beautiful cars made. I love the older SLs, when they were still relatively light, and that vintage V8 had some guts. Of course, if we're going to talk classic SLs, you can't leave out the 300SL. In my mind, the most beautiful car ever designed (perhaps not, maybe it's a second to the Dino 246GTS, it's a hard call). The 300SL is coming back by the way. Dealership was telling me about it on my last visit, it looks to be a stunner.

Yes, the '50s 300SL is a particularly beautiful car though interestingly the 300SL badge was also used in the later R107 series for a European market SL.

Generally speaking, the SL series up until the 107 were all very beautiful though the effect was slightly marked by the American bumpers in the mid-70's.
post #51 of 168
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Originally Posted by LabelKing View Post
Yes, the '50s 300SL is a particularly beautiful car though interestingly the 300SL badge was also used in the later R107 series for a European market SL.

Generally speaking, the SL series up until the 107 were all very beautiful though the effect was slightly marked by the American bumpers in the mid-70's.
Beautiful car indeed. Another of my favorites from about 10 years later among MBs was the 500/560 SEC. It was my dream car for many years. I still drool whenever I spot one on the street.
post #52 of 168
Bentley
post #53 of 168
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Originally Posted by linux_pro View Post
I don't race, I drive.

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood this as an invitation to run:

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Of course, anyone with stigma problems is welcome to come meet me on the I-90 for a face-off.

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However, I didn't buy the SLK to race, I bought it because it has a power hardtop and enough HP to keep things fun for me, it is lighter than the SL, has a V6 rather than the gas-hungry V8 of the SLK-55, has features that I like, and is honestly the most thrilling car I have ever driven (for more reasons than speed). Obviously, there are faster cars on the road and that fact doesn't bother me a bit, nor do I care at all.

I'm glad you're happy with your car. My only point was that different people think different things about people driving different cars.

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Good on ya that you've got a badass in the garage. Hope you like it as much as I love my SLK, and perhaps I'll see ya up on a mountain pass some day.

I don't have a badass garage, but I bet love my car as much as you do. It's also a convertible:

post #54 of 168
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Originally Posted by LabelKing View Post
Yes, the '50s 300SL is a particularly beautiful car though interestingly the 300SL badge was also used in the later R107 series for a European market SL. Generally speaking, the SL series up until the 107 were all very beautiful though the effect was slightly marked by the American bumpers in the mid-70's.
Yeah, one reason I bought the SLK was that when I was a kid, our family had a 1986 500SL, and I was totally in love with that car, it was a blast. But nothing like the modern SL500. Ever since the R129 platform, MB has turned the SL platform into a giant, bloated, ugly land-yacht. The R230 looks okay, but it's still huge and bloated. The SLK attracted me because of its light weight, the smaller V6 with plenty of HP (305 on mine), and of course, its R106 heritage. When I took my SLK over to dad's house to show it to him on Memorial Day weekend, he started reminiscing about the old 500SL and said he wished he had never sold it, and thought it was one of (if not THE) best cars he had ever owned. I remember him taking my mom on a lot of trips in it, that's for sure. Anyway... check out this rendering of the new 300SL Gullwing that Mercedes will be releasing in 2010-2011: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/s...ing-successor/ Looks pretty sweet.
post #55 of 168
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Originally Posted by linux_pro View Post
Anyway... check out this rendering of the new 300SL Gullwing that Mercedes will be releasing in 2010-2011:
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/s...ing-successor/

Looks pretty sweet.

Nice. I'm not a fan of retro designs but that car looks good.
post #56 of 168
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Originally Posted by linux_pro View Post
I don't race, I drive. My insurance is expensive enough without a reckless ticket. Oh, and the miata has about 140hp. I'm more in the Boxster/Cayman range (305bhp).

I think what he means is you have the car because it's pretty, rather than because it's a good car to drive. The MX5 is considered a bit of a wankers car. I've always found that confusing as the MX5 is a real drivers car, despite not having much power. It's probably due to the V8 lovers out there thinking any small car with 4 cylinders is a hunk of junk, without factoring in things like response, handling, and feedback... all being things your typical American / Australian V8 owner wouldn't know if it came up and hit them in the face.

And in fact the MX5 SP (I think that's Australia only version) has 157kw, and a power to weight ratio of 150kw/tonne. Your rather heavy SLK 350 (1495kg) which has a power to weight ratio of only 149kw/tonne. :P

Even compared to the latest model MX5 the SLK 350 is only 30% more powerful, not the 100% more powerful your above quote implies.

And no I don't drive an MX5.
post #57 of 168
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Originally Posted by Shraka View Post
I think what he means is you have the car because it's pretty, rather than because it's a good car to drive. The MX5 is considered a bit of a wankers car. I've always found that confusing as the MX5 is a real drivers car, despite not having much power. It's probably due to the V8 lovers out there thinking any small car with 4 cylinders is a hunk of junk, without factoring in things like response, handling, and feedback... all being things your typical American / Australian V8 owner wouldn't know if it came up and hit them in the face.
Well, you know what they say about assumptions. When I bought my SLK, I test-drove a ton of cars before making my decision, it was a grueling months-long affair, I literally drove EVERY roadster on the market and many other cars as well - including the 135i, 335i, Shelby GT500, Cayman S and Boxster S, Z4 M roadster, MX5, Mazdaspeed 3, SL500, Lotus Exige, Scion TC (!), WRX STI, the new M3, man... that's not even half of them. In the end, it came down to the Cayman S and the SLK. What sealed the deal was the final test drive of an SLK. My girlfriend and I were driving the car, I was traveling at 100mph around a curving freeway bridge/overpass, and the rear tire blew out in the apex of the turn. The car was stable and didn't miss a beat. We drove 3 more miles before we could find an exit and get off the freeway, and the car drove great the whole way. I bought a black SLK the following weekend.

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Originally Posted by Shraka View Post
And in fact the MX5 SP (I think that's Australia only version) has 157kw, and a power to weight ratio of 150kw/tonne. Your rather heavy SLK 350 (1495kg) which has a power to weight ratio of only 149kw/tonne. :P Even compared to the latest model MX5 the SLK 350 is only 30% more powerful, not the 100% more powerful your above quote implies.
This is one of the problems with comparing cars on paper. I test drove both the MX5 and the SLK. And I can tell you from owning one, those two cars aren't even in the same league. Go drive one and tell me the SLK is only 30% more powerful than a Miata (I still find that statement absurd - not sure how you can say a car with more than twice the torque is only 30% more powerful, regardless of weight). I have to be careful with the gas pedal in the SLK, as it will burn out in 4th and 5th gears at 70-80mph. It has so much torque that when I punch the gas at 2400rpm (100% torque at 2400rpm), my head snaps back and the rearend gets happy. Braking on the SLK... well, I've got 14" rotors with 6-post race calipers on the front, let's just say the SLK beats the Miata handily in this regard as well. Braking in the SLK is phenomenal, better than the SL500. As for handling, the Miata handled like a little go-kart, but that's because it IS a little go-kart. I personally find that with my sports suspension package on the SLK, and with its stock 5-link rear (and 4-link front) that it handles extremely well, with very few competitors in its class. The handling is one area where I'd say the Miata and SLK match up fairly evenly.

Regardless of what they look like on paper, those two cars FEEL nothing alike. Totally different experience. The only cars I drove that I would consider on-par with the SLK performance-wise were the Cayman/Boxster and the 135i/335i. The 335i had a bit more punch, but I thought it looked like a Honda or a bathtub. The Cayman was in an entirely different league than all the rest (did a U-turn on my test-drive at 38mph), but I was afraid of tickets and wanted a drop-top. I personally find the Boxster boring and ugly visually.




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Originally Posted by Shraka View Post
And no I don't drive an MX5.
Nothing wrong with it if you did. I almost bought one. They're good cars. The only downside I really saw with the Miata was that I thought it should get better mileage, and it really doesn't compete well against the Mazdaspeed 3, which is a full 10k cheaper and offers a lot more features. Also, I found its hardtop chintzy, and the interior was really cheap and bare. For pure driving excitement though, I personally found the Miata quite enjoyable - and was surprised how many cars it shamed, such as the Shelby GT500 (crappiest car I drove).
post #58 of 168
^ I still think my cabrio Yugo is the sweetest car on the road. Before that, I drove an Adobe until that fucker finally dried out.
post #59 of 168
Bentley.
Even though Penelope prefers her Fab 1.

But in my opinion, the 1936 Cord 812 Roadster is probably one of the most beautiful American driving machines ever built.
It makes me cry and fall to my knees every time I see one.

post #60 of 168
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^ Before that, I drove an Adobe until that fucker finally dried out.


Adobe?

Didn't they build houses out of that stuff in Mexico/Arizona before it became the name of a programme?
Excuse my ignorance of the branding. What company? I've never heard of this make.
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