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post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone, I've found the advice on this forum very useful--thank you all. I'm in the process of investigating buying a new suit. I'm a 21 year old law student, and will be involved in several conferences and competitions over the next few months, for which I need a suit. Although it obviously needs to be formal, I'm hoping to get something just a little trendy (pinstripes, perhaps slightly slim fitting). I'm prepared to spend up to about $1500. The main problem is that I'm currently in Perth, Australia, and the selection of suits here is poor, and they are generally expensive. I'm hoping to buy online. The best selection I've found so far is at Bluefly. Is there anywhere else I should look? I've looked at the Zenga suits in real life and there, and that seems to be what I'll go for. Are the Zenga "Z" suits any good? Any advice would be fantastic. Cheers.
post #2 of 27
It's Zegna, btw. Jon.
post #3 of 27
Thread Starter 
Oops. Perhaps an indication of how much I really am in need of advice here. =)
post #4 of 27
Sounds like you are buying a first "good" suit, and one that you will be wearing not only in moot court competitions, but also hopefully as a future lawyer. That being the case, you should NOT go for something "trendy" in my opinion. I fear you are leaning towards a bold pinstripe, high stance three button "designer" suit. This is not what you want to wear in moot court competitions, nor at business meetings, etc. as a lawyer. Trust me. It will make you look and feel out of place -- like a "kid" who thinks he's cool -- and most likely you will get a piece of garbage (for example, Z Zegna cuts looks good on a mannequin, but on the human body the poor quality shines through). Now, that doesn't mean that you can't choose something stylish. I feel most comfortable in my law office when I'm wearing my charcoal grey Oxxford suit, but you should feel free to get something with slightly more waist suppression, more structured shoulders, etc. I shudder to think how as a law student you are prepared to spend $1500. Is that U.S. dollars. If you don't mind dropping that much money and are convinced that going onine is your best bet, the quickest way to go would be Ebay and getting an Attolini suit from worldsfinest (that's his seller name, I believe). I recommend this because he is a reputable seller and has a great selection of sizes and styles. Attolini will give you a stylish and modern cut -- high armholes, narrower silhouette, great button stances (their high stance two buttons would be my personal choice here), and double vents -- but will be timeless in style and uber-high quality. Go with something dark -- dark grey or charcoal is preferred over navy in my opinion, just because I find it more versatile with shirts and ties -- and get a muted thin pinstripe or a subtle plaid/windowpane pattern (if you don't want to go with a solid, that is). Subtlety is the key here. For a first suit -- especially one where you will be using it for moot court -- you don't want something that "stands out" too much in terms of pattern. Some here may argue that I'm being too traditionalist, but as a recent law graduate I speak from experience. If you don't want to spend $1200 on an Attolini suit from worldsfinest, but still want to spend in that neighborhood, you could wait for other offerings on Ebay. There isn't much on Ebay right now, to be honest, but I'd expect that by mid-January you'll start seeing a lot of stuff due to dept. store closeouts (Ebay sellers will find those deal and flip them for the benefit of us all). My last piece of advice would be to know your measurements. Go to a tailor and pay him 10 bucks to take them. And also get a top quality pair of shoes. Get $600 shoes at discount and pay $200 for them. And a good pair of over the calf socks. And a good belt to match the shoes. If you are spending a grand on a suit, make sure the other details are appropriate.
post #5 of 27
By the way, if you'd rather buy online from a bricks and mortar dealer, in my opinion this is the best suit currently being sold online (I've excluded Yoox and Bluefly from this by the way -- I'm only including retailers): Corneliani This Corneliani suit from Neiman is pretty well-priced (as long as it isn't from the "Trend" line -- you may want to call them to check to make sure it's not), a great cut, and perfect for what you need it for. It is also in your purported price range. Neimans offers great service and returns should not be a problem if it doesn't work out.
post #6 of 27
Agree with johnnynorman3 about your first choice of suit. Keep it to something classic rather than trendy becoz professionalism is what you would want to portray. Z Zegna has a tendency to go for slim cutting and suitable for men with body like their model Adrien Brooke. So you better know your body shape before taking on this brand. I would definitely go for navy blue or charcoal gray for my 1st suit. It is versatile and can be worn with various combinations of dress shirts and ties easily. If you choose a pin-stripe or chalk-stripe suit, it gives people a stronger impression and it can be everlasting such that they know you are wearing the same suit as the previous competition or meeting. We would want that to happen do we. Check out on my website on suitable choice of suits: Mens Fashion Tips: Mens Suits. It might be able to answer some of your queries. Regards, Leroy Check out on my website on suitable choice of suits: Mens Fashion Tips
post #7 of 27
I agree with Leroy's comment about "thinking you're wearing the same suit all the time." That is why if you go with a pattern, subtle is best. It is also why a solid is best for a first suit -- because the looker's eyes will go to your shirt and tie rather than your suit, the looker will remember what suit you were wearing less well a day or two later. A lawyer in my office wore the same dark-grey suit to the office something like 8 days in a row last year. I remember that the suit -- which was obviously bespoke -- was in a stunning fabric and fit absolutely flawlessly. But I didn't catch on that it was the same suit until about the fifth day. By the way, if you spend the bucks, make sure your suit is fully canvassed and has a good amount of handwork. Z Zegna is fused and is made by machine. I like regular line Zegna's good enough, but Z and Soft lines are really terrible (arguably the most overpriced suits on the market).
post #8 of 27
Well, this is always debate, quality vs quantity. Do you need one suit or multiple suits? If I had a fairly tight limited budget and need to wear suits frequently, then I would go with quantity. Attolini, Brioni, Oxxford, Borrelli, all of these are top quality and they are amazing. But comes with price. You buy one suit for $1500US and wear it everyday? You should consider practicality as well. Z line is youthful line. Their fusing is top quality, very soft. For $1500, I would trying to get 3-4 fused suits, so you can rotate. I would get midnight blue suit, plain grey suit, black suit with pinstripe, and free of choice color suit. You can consider Boss, Arnold Byrant, Copply's, Samuelsohn, etc.. These designers quality is not comparable to the top tailoring lines, but they still look good given the suits are coordinated properly.
post #9 of 27
What size are you? This will help us search on Ebay and other sellers.
post #10 of 27
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You can consider Boss, Arnold Byrant, Copply's, Samuelsohn, etc..  These designers quality is not comparable to the top tailoring lines, but they still look good given the suits are coordinated properly.
Samuelsohn is full-canvas, no?
post #11 of 27
Samuelsohn is full canvas, and that would be a good option. But where is he going to find a Sammy suit online? Maybe from one of my Ebay auctions, sure -- but I don't believe I'll be getting any more Samuelsohn suits in the near future to auction off, and again he would be limited by selection. I think that the Neiman Marcus link I posted is quite a good idea in lieu of buying off of Ebay. I sort of disagree with Milanostyle here -- which is rare. I think that if you have any aspirations of having very nice suits in the near future (meaning in the next year), then you shouldn't buy a bunch of fused suits as a stop-gap. But, it sounds like you need one suit, and two at the most. If you can swing $1500, you can easily get two suits at the Canali level or higher off of Ebay. If you buy one suit, you can get uber-level suits like Attolini. You could also ask a member here to receive a package from Bluefly.com for you and then ship it to you. I'm sure somebody would be willing to do this for a small fee or for free. Bluefly's Canali or Zegna suits would be pretty good, albeit not at Ebay prices. What is your size? I would be happy to pick up something in Boston for you and ship it to you if you'd like. I can usually score $2500 for around $500 or $600, but again it's sort of helter-skelter in terms of when I can score them and the size/fabric choices.
post #12 of 27
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Samuelsohn is full canvas, and that would be a good option.  But where is he going to find a Sammy suit online?  Maybe from one of my Ebay auctions, sure -- but I don't believe I'll be getting any more Samuelsohn suits in the near future to auction off, and again he would be limited by selection.
I haven't ordered from them, but a google search turned up this: https://secure.onlineathens.com/Dick...log/Suits.html Too lazy to go past the second page.
post #13 of 27
I wouldn't pay $1000 for a Corneliani suit, esp when you can find these on ebay NWT all day long for $150-200 and at Marshall's for $250-300. I would go with one nicer suit on ebay (if you are the right size and know how to find them, you may be able to swing NWT Brioni, Borrelli, etc...) for $500-1000, and a couple fused suits, I don't think Z Zegna is a bad idea, I quite like their suits (their leather goods suck though)
post #14 of 27
$850 is a good price, but still incredibly high to pay for a Samuelsohn suit. I think it would be crazy to say, "Go buy a Samuelsohn for $850 when you could have an Oxxford from Ebay for the same price or even less, or an Attolini for $300 - $400 more."
post #15 of 27
The Corneliani suit gives him a good cloth, a great cut, modern styling, and an immediate availability in a fully range of sizes. It also gives him the NM return policy and guarantee that only a bricks and mortar has. My point was that for a pure retail buy from online, this is the absolute best suit that I think is out there for him. I may have suggested the Polo Blue Label when it was discounted during the NOVEMBER code period, but that's over now. But you can't, for example, order an Oxxford online to the best of my knowledge. Drizz, I respect that you have done a lot of purchasing off of Ebay, but I think you radically overestimate the availability from that source. Remember that this kid is one specific size. How many NWT Corneliani's do you see in one specific size over a 2 month period on Ebay? A few maybe. How many are in the $150 to $250 range? Maybe one or two. How many of those are in an uncrazy button stances and in colors and fabrics suitable for what he needs it for? Maybe one. My point is that if he needs a suit quickly, going to NM online or Bluefly if he can find some help from here might be his best bet if he wants a higher end suit but doesn't want to pay $1250 for an Attolini from Ian Daniels.
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