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post #31 of 129
one with a gun, or one with nine friends, or one with nine friends with guns.
post #32 of 129
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one with a gun, or one with nine friends, or one with nine friends with guns.

LOL!

The answer is actually quite simple. The opponent that bothers a well practiced martial artist the most is a good ring boxer turned artist. It doesn't matter what art they practice really. A good ring boxer is quick, hits hard and can take one hell of a beating not to mention they are well disciplined. More than likely their whole attitude will follow them into whatever art they chose. They will take the time to learn it, practice it and then apply it well to win the fight.

A word about forms. Yeah it can be boring and it seems to be a waste of time sometimes. The fact is it trains the body and mind. The mind becomes disciplined and the body is trained by muscle memory to remember the mechanics involved in whatever technique that's being learned. You want to move as if everything is second nature without having your brain get in the way to slow you down.
post #33 of 129
i think theyd have the biggest problem with people who have full out sparring matches etc. i.e. boxers, muay thai etc.
post #34 of 129
I'd say what may be the most worrying is a naturally strong crazy person. my assumption is that if you have the discipline to have been practising a martial art for a long time, you are probrably rational enough for me to talk my way out of an asskicking. I would be much more worried about a 30 year old, 300 pound bricklayer who was stoned and pissed off and I was in his way.
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I'd say what may be the most worrying is a naturally strong crazy person. my assumption is that if you have the discipline to have been practising a martial art for a long time, you are probrably rational enough for me to talk my way out of an asskicking. I would be much more worried about a 30 year old, 300 pound bricklayer who was stoned and pissed off and I was in his way.


Or that dude who seems like a wallflower but could just snap and smash the back of your head in with a brick because he was just not having a good day.
post #36 of 129
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Hell yea. That's what I love about MT, its in your face no bullshit. No, useless flashy kicks that have no real application in real life. I actually once saw a couple of videos of some guy taking challenges from others who were "elites" in Tae Kwon Do, Jeet kune do, and karate. Needless to say everything they tried in their bag of tricks proved useless against MT.

Of course, there are also videos of MT fighters losing to other styles. Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAoCtZ7TwC4

If you train the right way (that is, training to hit hard and get hit hard), it doesn't matter whether you wear satin shorts or funny white pajamas.
post #37 of 129
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Of course, there are also videos of MT fighters losing to other styles. Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAoCtZ7TwC4

If you train the right way (that is, training to hit hard and get hit hard), it doesn't matter whether you wear satin shorts or funny white pajamas.

Having done TKD, Karate, and Muay thai extensively. I can say that none of them can hold a candle to MT in terms of effectiveness.
post #38 of 129
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one with a gun, or one with nine friends, or one with nine friends with guns.

Word.

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I'd say what may be the most worrying is a naturally strong crazy person. my assumption is that if you have the discipline to have been practising a martial art for a long time, you are probrably rational enough for me to talk my way out of an asskicking. I would be much more worried about a 30 year old, 300 pound bricklayer who was stoned and pissed off and I was in his way.

This is number 2. I worry about the crowds and the guns first, the crazies second.

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i think theyd have the biggest problem with people who have full out sparring matches etc. i.e. boxers, muay thai etc.

Er, maybe. But I'd actually be more apprehensive of a good, well-rounded fighter who is not afraid of being on his back. Then there is no "safe zone" for you.


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LOL!

The answer is actually quite simple. The opponent that bothers a well practiced martial artist the most is a good ring boxer turned artist. It doesn't matter what art they practice really. A good ring boxer is quick, hits hard and can take one hell of a beating not to mention they are well disciplined. More than likely their whole attitude will follow them into whatever art they chose. They will take the time to learn it, practice it and then apply it well to win the fight.

I disagree with this. Apart from the crowds, the guns, and the crazies, I have found that the toughest opponents (and mind you, this is in ringfighting, not in "streetfighting"), are those with a strong wrestling background. Those dudes are crazy strong, and usually have great muscles endurance to boot. Once they learn some defense against submissions, and elementary strikes, they are hell to fight.

That said, my only (recorded, unrecorded is another story) loss was by KO, and that came from a guy with both a decent boxing and Muy Thai background. I dropped an arm to bring up a head kick (left leg), he timed it perfectly and countered with a looping (or so I was informed after the fact) overhand right, and that's all she wrote.

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A word about forms. Yeah it can be boring and it seems to be a waste of time sometimes. The fact is it trains the body and mind. The mind becomes disciplined and the body is trained by muscle memory to remember the mechanics involved in whatever technique that's being learned. You want to move as if everything is second nature without having your brain get in the way to slow you down.[/quote]

Agreed. I once practiced with a dude from Cambodia. Came over after the Khymer Rouge and all of that. He told me about all sorts of obscure martial arts that are practived locally, but have never gotten great exposure. One style was all about biting. The practitioners were always training two things - timing, and jaw strength. Now, even if I was getting pummeled, I'd never really think to bite (I'm not Tyson.) but for these dudes, that is option number 1, because that is what they train to do. Crazy.
post #39 of 129
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Originally Posted by retronotmetro View Post
Of course, there are also videos of MT fighters losing to other styles. Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAoCtZ7TwC4

If you train the right way (that is, training to hit hard and get hit hard), it doesn't matter whether you wear satin shorts or funny white pajamas.

You forgot to mention rassling...
post #40 of 129
i was talking about streetfighting, as in that situation you dont want to go down no matter what. i.e. friends and people kicking you in the head. if were talking about ring situation, then yes i think youd want boxing/muay thai, with something that will help you on the ground. i.e BJJ etc.
post #41 of 129
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Having done TKD, Karate, and Muay thai extensively. I can say that none of them can hold a candle to MT in terms of effectiveness.

Hey, whatever works for you is cool. Style vs style arguments are fun on the internet, but I think modern MMA has shown us that crosstraining is the way to go IRL. Finding a good instructor is more important to me than worrying about what the system is called.
post #42 of 129
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You forgot to mention rassling...

Troof. Better add boardshorts and singlets to the funny pajamas.
post #43 of 129
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One style was all about biting. The practitioners were always training two things - timing, and jaw strength. Now, even if I was getting pummeled, I'd never really think to bite (I'm not Tyson.) but for these dudes, that is option number 1, because that is what they train to do. Crazy.

LOL. TMA meets TMJ.
post #44 of 129
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I disagree with this. Apart from the crowds, the guns, and the crazies, I have found that the toughest opponents (and mind you, this is in ringfighting, not in "streetfighting"), are those with a strong wrestling background. Those dudes are crazy strong, and usually have great muscles endurance to boot. Once they learn some defense against submissions, and elementary strikes, they are hell to fight.

That said, my only (recorded, unrecorded is another story) loss was by KO, and that came from a guy with both a decent boxing and Muy Thai background. I dropped an arm to bring up a head kick (left leg), he timed it perfectly and countered with a looping (or so I was informed after the fact) overhand right, and that's all she wrote.




Definitely. Wrestlers can be your worst nightmare even if they don't any real striking. Just the fact that they can dominate you on the ground so easily is reason to worry for any striker. All they have to do is have a decent shoot and they will take you down.

Usually, most wrestlers have been training since they were very young (elementary-middle school age) and have incredible core strength and endurance.

Boxers are another story. Just the motion, form, and quickness of their punching style is devastating and the fight can end before you even think it has started.
post #45 of 129
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i was talking about streetfighting, as in that situation you dont want to go down no matter what. i.e. friends and people kicking you in the head. if were talking about ring situation, then yes i think youd want boxing/muay thai, with something that will help you on the ground. i.e BJJ etc.

No offense, but your friends suck
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