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post #16 of 56
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There's no "conjecture" that, for example, some people prefer the soft shoulder of the neapolitans (Isaia, Kiton) and others the styling of Armani classico, etc. I'm sure there are certain people out there (and Americans are NOT the only offenders) who purchase simply by label recognition, but the vast majority of the people on this board, I would venture, do not.
Nice try, Koji, but no dice. If your posts don't consist of pictures of runway shows and comments like "I think this is soooooooo cool, don't you?" and affirmative responses to the same, then you're engaging in a "pissing contest" and are a typical American male. Even if you're from Australia.
post #17 of 56
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(Thracozaag @ 06 Dec. 2004, 08:28) There's no "conjecture" that, for example, some people prefer the soft shoulder of the neapolitans (Isaia, Kiton) and others the styling of Armani classico, etc.  I'm sure there are certain people out there (and Americans are NOT the only offenders) who purchase simply by label recognition, but the vast majority of the people on this board, I would venture, do not.
Nice try, Koji, but no dice. If your posts don't consist of pictures of runway shows and comments like "I think this is soooooooo cool, don't you?" and affirmative responses to the same, then you're engaging in a "pissing contest" and are a typical American male. Even if you're from Australia.
Ah, my mistake; I apologize, heh. koji
post #18 of 56
Hey Roy, That wouldn't happen to be Pauw would it? I have taken a look in there, but I cant bring myself to pay the prices in Pauw. Especially with the exchange rate what it is and the occasional shopping trip to the US. I just ordered one of the suits from the polo.com online sale and with code, and free shipping it came to about 375 euros. Compared to the 850 euros I saw it for in Oger last week (on sale down from almost a thousand....) I wonder if I will ever shop for anything in Amsterdam again.
post #19 of 56
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I wonder if I will ever shop for anything in Amsterdam again.
I'm sure you can think of *some* things.
post #20 of 56
Alexis, The pissing contests are held on the Ernest threads. No clear winner has emerged. The Styleboys were just kicking around labels, not each other. If we can't do that three-fourths of the threads disappear. I think what you meant to point out is that the pleasure found in the fine-grained examination of products and ranking based on minute differences is very much a male phenomenon. On this board, that explains itself: it's men's clothing. But that leaves unexplained all the parallel boards obsessed with sports cars or hi-fi or vintage Stratocasters or mid-sixties psychedelic records which are every bit as gender skewed as this one. In that respect, you're right. We could just as easily be talking about suspension tuning on Alfa-Romeos or the thrift shop pickup of an original 45 of "Why" by the Dirty Wurds for 25 cents. Finally, use any avatar you want, from Marie Antoinette to Cha Cha Muldowney.
post #21 of 56
I agree with both Modsquad and Alexis. Personally, I think that it is rather futile to "rank" Borrelli, Kiton, Barbera, and Isaia. It is constructive to discuss the relative merits in a specific context (eg. amount of handiwork.) However, "Which is better" is nearly an ernest style question, imo, because there are differences in styles, pricepoint, etc... To take Alexis' car analogy, a comparison between two pinstriped suits is maybe more useful (a direct comparison between a Honda Civic and its direct competition) than a comparison between brands.
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I agree with both Modsquad and Alexis.  Personally, I think that it is rather futile to "rank" Borrelli, Kiton, Barbera, and Isaia.  It is constructive to discuss the relative merits in a specific context (eg. amount of handiwork.)  However, "Which is better" is nearly an ernest style question, imo, because there are differences in styles, pricepoint, etc...  To take Alexis' car analogy, a comparison between two pinstriped suits is maybe more useful (a direct comparison between a Honda Civic and its direct competition) than a comparison between brands.
If you look at the initial question posed by marc37, there was absolutely no mention of rankings. koji
post #23 of 56
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I agree with both Modsquad and Alexis.  Personally, I think that it is rather futile to "rank" Borrelli, Kiton, Barbera, and Isaia.  It is constructive to discuss the relative merits in a specific context (eg. amount of handiwork.)  However, "Which is better" is nearly an ernest style question, imo, because there are differences in styles, pricepoint, etc...  To take Alexis' car analogy, a comparison between two pinstriped suits is maybe more useful (a direct comparison between a Honda Civic and its direct competition) than a comparison between brands.
I agree with you completely. However, certain brands may appeal to you more than others. To stay within the cars example. Both BMW and Mercedes make comparable cars (3vs. C, 5vs. E, 7 vs. S, etc.) within the same price range. But, BMW has always appealed to the sporty driver whereas Mercedes usually is for the driver who appreciates comfort. Maybe it is useful to swing the discussion in this topic into that direction?
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(Alexis @ 06 Dec. 2004, 04:44) The questions was, Why is it that Amercian men find it so natural to reduce every subject to a pissing contest?
Marc isn't an American. Uh... But you guys can have him if you want.
No, thanks. Jon.
post #25 of 56
Regarding this whole thread: HAHAHAHA. Oh, man that Alexis sure is funny...maybe her mom won a Nobel price as well... Jon.
post #26 of 56
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Isaia is the cheapest, and (probably) best value out of those.
I would agree with the "best value" part... For me, I've always placed Isaia somewhere between Zegna (regular line, not Nap. C.), on one end, and Brioni & Kiton on the other. In its price-point, it is very good value for money. Not sure I agree, however, with the opinion that RLPL is better than Isaia. I like my Purple Label suits, but I think that -- all things considered -- I still prefer Isaia. JV
post #27 of 56
Are we talking about styling or construction now? Oxxford certainly has superior construction to almost every suiting on that list, however, it is made in a fairly conservative cut.
post #28 of 56
Out of Versace Couture, Armani Classico and Borrelli, Versace has been the most aggressive cut in my experience, and the fabrics are odd but interesting none the less. Of course, I have no experience with Borrelli suits but I am pretty certain that it's not in the same race (to continue the car metaphor) as Versace Couture. Armani Classico may be the highest quality of the Armani lines, but I would certainly not patronize it - I would much rather have Emporio Armani or Giorgio Armani for their continuation in fashion, despite the comically disproportionate bowling-pins that Armani has been calling "suits" the past few seasons. It is my understanding that Armani Classico, like Collezioni and A|X, is not designed by Giorgio Armani, while Emporio and GA are. As I said, I have no experience with Borrelli suitings, but based on the opinions/rants/brawls on these forums, I would probably pick it over AC or VC.
post #29 of 56
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Are we talking about styling or construction now?  Oxxford certainly has superior construction to almost every suiting on that list, however, it is made in a fairly conservative cut.
Is Oxxford American or British? I have never heard of the brand before, I don't think I have seen it anywhere in Holland.
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(drizzt3117 @ 06 Dec. 2004, 9:23) Are we talking about styling or construction now?  Oxxford certainly has superior construction to almost every suiting on that list, however, it is made in a fairly conservative cut.
Is Oxxford American or British? I have never heard of the brand before, I don't think I have seen it anywhere in Holland.
American, from Chicago. Website: http://www.oxxfordclothes.com/ koji
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