Originally Posted by kiLLscaLLion
Thanks for the advice. Is Saphir black a type of conditioner? I'm browsing francos.com for shoe accessories and the different Saphir products are bewildering.
I compiled a list of different Saphir products and available colors below. Avel/Saphir markets several lines of leather, fabric and furniture care products under the Saphir label. The main line of shoe care products consists of paste wax (Pate De Luxe) and shoe cream (Creme Surfine). Then there is the premium, more expensive line of shoe care products called Medaille D'Or, which also has a paste wax product and shoe cream product. Both product lines are based on beeswax, turpentine and carnauba wax. Supposedly, Medaille D'or line has a higher beeswax content than the main Saphir line. Subjectivly, it appears denser and smells a little different. Medaile D'Or comes in black colored tins and jars. It consists of 10 colors of Cirage Pate Deluxe Medaille D'Or (the paste wax product available in 50ml and 100ml metal tins) and 10 colors of Creme Medaile D'Or (the shoe cream product comes in 100ml glass jars). All Saphir products carry a label with a color code number and color name in several languages. The color names and color code stay the same between different Saphir product lines. The Cirage Pate Deluxe Medaille D'Or (paste wax) is available in the following colors: Jaun Cire (color code )/ yellow Cognac (color code 10)/a shade of medium brown with some yellow tint, 100ml tin only Marron Clair (03)/ light brown Marron Moyen (37)/ medium brown Marron Fonce (05)/ very dark brown Acajou (09)/Mahogany, medium brown with some red Havane (34)/Light Tabacco brown, 100ml tin only Bleu Marine (06)/ Navy Noir (01)/ Black Incolore (02) Neutral wax with no color pigment Creme Medaile D'Or (shoe cream) comes in the following colors: Marron Clair (03)/ light brown Marron Moyen (37)/ medium brown Marron Fonce (05)/ very dark brown Acajou (09)/Mahogany, medium brown with some red Noir (01)/ Black Bordeaux (08)/ also listed as Burgundy on the can, I find it funny how Bordeaux is translated as Burngundy, they should have wrote "Red Wine" Hermes Rouge (12)/ dark red but not quite burgundy Vert Fonce (20)/ Dark green Bleu Marine (06)/ Navy Incolore (02) Neutral wax with no color pigment There are a few other products in the Medaile D'Or line which Ron mentioned already: Renovateur - leather conditioner, may darken light leathers a bit. Graisse - 15% Seal fat based leather conditioner-water reppelant, has an assertive "marine" smell that diminishes over time. Special Reptile - conditioner for exotic leathers, such as crocodile, lizard, snake, etc. There are also other products like Nappa leather conditioners, leather restrorers, suede cleaners etc. Saphir main shoe care line consists of Pate De Luxe (paste wax, 50ml and 100ml tins, 9 or maybe more colors) and Creme Surfine (shoe cream, 50ml glass jars, approx. 74 colors). Pate De Luxe (wax) is available in the following colors (maybe more): Jaun Cire (color code )/ yellow Marron Clair (03)/ light brown Marron Moyen (37)/ medium brown Marron Fonce (05)/ very dark brown Acajou (09)/Mahogany, medium brown with some red Noir (01)/ Black Bordeaux (08)/ also listed as Burgundy on the can Incolore (02) Neutral wax with no color pigment I am not going to list all the Creme Surfine colors since there are at least 74 of them but it includes all of the colors available in other lines I listed above as well some unusual colors like silver, white or green apple, etc. There are also at least a dozen of different shades of brown, including all the brown colors from other lines. A few more brown colors listed below. Havane Clair (36)/ Light Tobacco Brown Havane Moyen (35)/ Medium Tobacco Brown Fawn (19)/ yellowish tan Noisette (38)/ Hazelnut Hope this information proves usefull to someone.