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post #61 of 81
I like PS2s as well --- best tires I've had on my BMW, and they feel like they were made for that car. RE-01R is an R-compound impersonating a street tire.

--Andre
post #62 of 81
I find the e46 M3s to be overpriced at the moment. I'm planning on getting an '06, but will wait another year.

I picked up a '06 330ci ZHP for 10-15K less than the equivalent M3. I just couldn't see the drastic price increase, especially as the car is my daily driver.

I would look for an '06, <20K miles, full warranty + CPO + extended maintenance to 100K. Unfortunately, they're still selling for $45K right now.
post #63 of 81
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What is the "ZHP" package for the 330ci?
post #64 of 81
ZHP is the performance package for the non-M E46. It includes hotter cams, higher revs, and different engine software for more power (10 HP), different wheels, different interior, different body kit, and different suspension. There's also a short shifter, and shorter final drive. Complete details here: http://www.bimmerfest.com/wiki/index..._Package_Codes --Andre
post #65 of 81
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I got my M3 in 2002, and every day of ownership has been a pleasure, whether on the track or as a daily driver. One thing that I will say about an E46 M3 is that everything on it can be tweaked except for the engine, and the rewards from modding it carefully are substantial. Here are few shots of mine:





Reliability on mine has been rock solid.

I think that time will prove the E46 M3, as the ultimate expression of the BMW inline 6, to be a classic. I don't think that I will ever sell mine.

- B

Great Car, and Boston, specifically this area (now w/o the FAO Bear) must be great echoing the noise around in with the tall buildings on either side. I've probably admired this car from afar while walking in Boston.
post #66 of 81
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ZHP is the performance package for the non-M E46. It includes hotter cams, higher revs, and different engine software for more power (10 HP), different wheels, different interior, different body kit, and different suspension. There's also a short shifter, and shorter final drive.
M3, ZHP: A lot of people will claim that the ZHP is XX% (insert number, usually 95% or more) of an M3. Having owned the ZHP and driven several M3s, I will say that this really isn't true. The ZHP has a serious identity problem -- it's neither a 3-series and neither an M. It's vastly different than both your average 330 and also very different than an M3. In any case, it's a fun car, but I like my cars to rattle my teeth and perhaps knock them loose, and the ZHP is just way too comfortable. Compared to some of my other vehicles of choice I feel like I'm "wafting" in this thing. NSX There's a problem with NSXes. They don't go below 35k for a good one. 35K will buy you a 1991-1993 with 25-30K miles on it. However, 50K-60K will buy you an immaculate '04 or '05 with the same amount of mileage. I find the facelifted cars to look far better on the road. There were few changes, but they really add up when you are talking a 15-20K difference for a car that is 14 years newer! In any case, if you are looking to buy a mid-engined two seater sports car, you probably should be pretty comfortable plopping down 60K for one. The following is only based on my experience with an '05: The NSX is much more a driver's car than the BMW. The BMW is the "ultimate driving machine" but it is still what started life as a family car with a stiff suspension and a big engine. It still weighs 3400+ lbs. The NSX is a whole different, and more connected, experience. However, the car is dated -- you'll realize this as soon as you grasp the city bus sized steering wheel. Therefore, you should also take a look at the S2000. I am very partial to the "Honda" driving experience, with my all time favorite car to drive being an '01 ITR.
post #67 of 81
I really want an M3...

Vox, do you have a list of what mods have been made to yours?
post #68 of 81
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Originally Posted by arnach View Post
I find the e46 M3s to be overpriced at the moment. I'm planning on getting an '06, but will wait another year.


The earlier years of the E46s are low low low on price now. I assume with the economy and 2004s coming off of warranty, the prices have dropped through the floor. There isn't that much of a difference between an '04 330i and '04 M3, especially through private sellers.
post #69 of 81
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The earlier years of the E46s are low low low on price now. I assume with the economy and 2004s coming off of warranty, the prices have dropped through the floor. There isn't that much of a difference between an '04 330i and '04 M3, especially through private sellers.

But there's a huge difference in an '04 330i and '04 M3 in terms of running costs with a warranty that expires in a few months and no CPO
post #70 of 81
^Just get a zhp it's almost as good.
post #71 of 81
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^Just get a zhp it's almost as good.

Trust me, that's a big "almost."

I love SMG. Mr. Paddleshift dosen't come close, and voids the warranty.
post #72 of 81
I know, I've had my e46 m3 for 5 years now and there's no car that comes close.
post #73 of 81
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Great Car, and Boston, specifically this area (now w/o the FAO Bear) must be great echoing the noise around in with the tall buildings on either side. I've probably admired this car from afar while walking in Boston.

Thanks...I think that shot was from the second day I had the RACs on.

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I really want an M3...

Vox, do you have a list of what mods have been made to yours?

I wrote up a partial list earlier in the thread.

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I know, I've had my e46 m3 for 5 years now and there's no car that comes close.

+1

While I admire Porsches, and wouldn't kick certain models out of bed, they fail to win me over. Can't put my finger on it.

I had high hopes for the Aston Martin Vantage...until I drove one (the initial 4.3 liter, not the 4.8, though), after which I couldn't justify the price jump. I was thinking Vantage because I didn't want to go another round modding a car, and it's fucking gorgeous:



If a E92 CSL becomes a reality, and then makes it ashore in the states, well, might be time for a new daily driver...here's one of the pics of a possible mule on the Nurburgring last September:



- B
post #74 of 81
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
While I admire Porsches, and wouldn't kick certain models out of bed, they fail to win me over. Can't put my finger on it.

- B

You could be missing out on some really phenomenal handling.
post #75 of 81
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You could be missing out on some really phenomenal handling.

No doubt, I am. Maybe it is a mental block, or state of denial...

- B
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