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post #1 of 21
5/20/08 at 6:12pm
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I hear that 'myprotein' is the best non-brand shake. Do they really work and how best to maximise the muscle building?

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post #2 of 21
5/20/08 at 9:57pm
It works like protein.
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post #3 of 21
5/21/08 at 3:22am
Steroids work too.
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post #4 of 21
5/21/08 at 4:34am
the guy is obviously clueless but to answer his question take protein within 30 minutes of finishing a workout and before you go to bed (because it is basically an 8 hour fasting while you are asleep and that is when your body needs the protein to repair)...those are definitely the two most important times. Eat a good meal an hour or so before your workout but take protein afterwards and before bed.
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post #5 of 21
5/22/08 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by KBW View Post
the guy is obviously clueless but to answer his question take protein within 30 minutes of finishing a workout and before you go to bed (because it is basically an 8 hour fasting while you are asleep and that is when your body needs the protein to repair)...those are definitely the two most important times. Eat a good meal an hour or so before your workout but take protein afterwards and before bed.

absolutely correct.

i always recommend something high in complext carb or some fruit or bananas before a heavy workout. eat a chicken breast and few raw brocolli or a protein shake AFTER the workout.
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post #6 of 21
5/22/08 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by shoe View Post
i always recommend something high in complext carb or some fruit or bananas before a heavy workout. eat a chicken breast and few raw brocolli or a protein shake AFTER the workout.

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Complex carb ≠ Bananas

And you don't want broccoli right after a workout. Probably not chicken breast either, as it is far from fast-digesting.

I usually eat candies pre and post. Whey mixed with some milk (for some casein content) shortly after.
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post #7 of 21
5/22/08 at 4:13pm
yes , i meant either or. i know bananas are not complex carbs. ..unless it is those huge green platano cooking banana things
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post #8 of 21
5/22/08 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by KBW View Post
the guy is obviously clueless but to answer his question take protein within 30 minutes of finishing a workout and before you go to bed (because it is basically an 8 hour fasting while you are asleep and that is when your body needs the protein to repair)...those are definitely the two most important times. Eat a good meal an hour or so before your workout but take protein afterwards and before bed.

Depends what kind of protein you're taking. After a workout you want to take whey protein because it digests quickly. However, you don't want to take whey before going to bed (again, because it digests quickly). Before bed you want to take a casein protein (such as cottage cheese - or a casein protein supp) because casein is a slow-digesting protein. Whey before bed is useless (even counter-productive).
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post #9 of 21
5/22/08 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by odoreater View Post
Depends what kind of protein you're taking. After a workout you want to take whey protein because it digests quickly. However, you don't want to take whey before going to bed (again, because it digests quickly). Before bed you want to take a casein protein (such as cottage cheese - or a casein protein supp) because casein is a slow-digesting protein. Whey before bed is useless (even counter-productive).

For the average person that's jsut trying to stay lean and strong without significantly changing their body, do distinctions between types of protein and when you take them really matter?
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post #10 of 21
5/22/08 at 8:16pm
taxler: not really, eating right and working out are the main deals here.

Now, the problem is defining "eating right." For example, if you're looking to gain mass, you need to carb up after a workout. Think fruit or other sugars plus whey.
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post #11 of 21
5/22/08 at 10:06pm
Simpler carbs after workout.
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post #12 of 21
5/22/08 at 10:25pm
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Originally Posted by KBW View Post
the guy is obviously clueless but to answer his question take protein within 30 minutes of finishing a workout and before you go to bed (because it is basically an 8 hour fasting while you are asleep and that is when your body needs the protein to repair)...those are definitely the two most important times. Eat a good meal an hour or so before your workout but take protein afterwards and before bed.

I agree with protein after workout and before sleeping but meal one hour before?
If I do that, I will puke out my guts after doing sets of balls to the wall squats and deadlifts.
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post #13 of 21
5/23/08 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by Taxler View Post
For the average person that's jsut trying to stay lean and strong without significantly changing their body, do distinctions between types of protein and when you take them really matter?

Of course. Just because you are just trying to stay lean or whatever, doesn't change the way your body digests various types of protein sources. This is especially true if you are trying to stay both lean and strong at the same time considering those two goals are antithetical to one another (your body needs more calories to stay strong and less calories to stay lean).
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post #14 of 21
5/23/08 at 4:06pm
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Simpler carbs after workout.

yes. and i actually wake up for a shake at 3:30 am and then go back to bed.
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post #15 of 21
5/23/08 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by odoreater View Post
Of course. Just because you are just trying to stay lean or whatever, doesn't change the way your body digests various types of protein sources. This is especially true if you are trying to stay both lean and strong at the same time considering those two goals are antithetical to one another (your body needs more calories to stay strong and less calories to stay lean).

There is an equilibrium point in either senario, and I'm trying to glean how far apart those two points are. Assuming total calories and grams of protein remain the same, how much leaner and stronger might I be by doing nothing other than altering the type and timing of protein intake?
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