Originally Posted by Notreknip
I think I can help here...
For dress shoes I have:
9D AE Hale
9D AE Taunton (Borderline loose.)
9D AE Bel Air
9D AE Mora (Borderline loose.)
9D AE Soho
8.5 AE Soho (Borderline tight.)
I bought an 8 in the Red Wing GT and I'm very happy I did, as they fit perfectly in my opinion. (They required a bit of fighting to get into for the first week or so, but they're absolutely perfect now.)
I suggest sizing 1 down for the GT if you have a narrow or normally wide foot.
Thanks for the comments! My acual measured foot size and dress shoe size is US9D (AE Park Ave, AE Chester, Bass Weejuns, old USA made Cole Haan half brogues) and 8E or F for English shoes (depending on which they consider their medium width). I always go for a size 10 in sneakers (Nike, Gravis, etc). I do wear a size 9 in Converse Jack Purcells though...
Funny you mentionned the AE Mora; I finally had a chance to try on a pair on sale at Winners ($249 iirc) a couple of weeks ago. Wanted these for a while, but had to pass; they were a very poor fit for me. Best way I can describe it is there was too much volume. With the strap adjusted all the way down, they were still quite roomy in the vamp; I also tried the 8.5, but the length wasn't good.
Back to the Red Wing GT; while I do believe in breaking in a shoe, I don't subscribe to the idea that it should be tight to the point of being painful at first. I like my dress shoes to fit snug/just. With certain new shoes, that can mean foot fatigue after the first few full day wearings or merely cramped small toes.
I was under the impression most here recommended sizing down 1/2 from the usual dress shoe size...The only advantage I could get by sizing down 1 full size is that there'd be no mistaking if it's too small!
Anyone else care to chime in? Will probably get them from getoutside as suggested by another member: http://www.getoutsideshoes.com/product.php?id=1080